# Dune questions? SPOIL AWAY!

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**Created:** [May 10, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-questions-spoil-away/621466 "2012-05-10T02:49:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-questions-spoil-away/621466/41 "2012-05-14T15:42:07Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> The Kwisatz Haderach would have had access to male and female ancestral memory both, as well as being prescient.

Didn’t Leto II refer to himself as the fulcrum of humanity or something like that?

> [@runner pat](#):
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> I think the book mentioned that the deep desert would be preserved for the worms and to continue the Fremen culture.

And it was pretty much exactly what Leto II did, except he was the only worm left when the planet was fully changed.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dune-questions-spoil-away/621466/42 "2012-05-14T15:46:33Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> Last night, BBC America played the four hour “Alan Smithee” version of\* Dune\*. The re-made opening is so awful it made me want to yell, “I WILL kill THEM!”

I actually saw that version in the theater on opening night (got the handout explaining things, too), and when that opening came on last night I had _no idea_ where that was from. Had to go look it up on wiki.

Still as painful to watch now as it was in the theater.

> [@Filbert](#):
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> Always wondered how that one’s supposed to square with Alia being ‘possessed’ by her grandfather.
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> I mean… Oops?

Alia also had the prescient abilities of the Kwizatz Haderach – but her prescience wasn’t as good as Paul’s. After Paul’s “death”, she keeps upping her spice intake in an attempt to resolve the clarity of her prescient visions, to no avail… and, furthermore, the spice overdose only makes her problems with Abomination even worse, leading to her possession.

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