# Dungeons Et(Fr. "And") Dragons (Or so"I" WAS Lead toBeLive!)  SPOILER!!!(MayBe)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 8, 2000, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620 "2000-12-08T14:00:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/21 "2000-12-08T21:01:21Z")

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I just want to know what the spoiler is.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/22 "2000-12-08T21:46:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> You’ve(For my American  
> Bretheran[Ya’ll] have thoe ENTIRE “QUEEN” (As IF you/ya’ll could expect MUCH  
> from any person Not FAMILIAR with economics/or MY” Yet UNRealeased novel ” How  
> TO Run THe SHow, and by that “WE” MEAN ALL! Of iT! The WHOLE Magic Aspect  
> is the most powerful in ALL?/ MOST Readily availible, “Force”)Yeah that”Luke[Pussy] I  
> am YOUR Father! GIVE IN To THe DARK Side! Thing Comes Up!(WHO would of  
> thought it “PLAYS’ Out Exactly LIKE “Star Wars”(Sorry Monsueir[Fr. It MEANS MR.,  
> Honest!] Lucas IF “I”ve ENTERed DELicate WATERS!] in the Universe, and yet NO  
> ONE ever uses it 'cept for dire {ONE Or Two That “I” Am ABLE To REcall!) situations.

This was my favorite part. The reference to 2livecrew made it.

Genius… Pure Genius.

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**Author:** ![Delta-9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Delta-9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delta-9)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/23 "2000-12-08T22:01:56Z")

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What he said.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/24 "2000-12-08T22:05:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I just want to know what the spoiler is.

Spoiler in the subject header is a typo. He meant _spoiled_, naturally referring to his shrunken brain in a jar of stale formaldehyde.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/25 "2000-12-08T22:09:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Connor \*  
> \*\*I just want to know what the spoiler is. \*\*

easy… did you read it?  
The Scene with  
“Dragon’s”(SPOILER: THEY DON’T PLAY A KEY ROLE TO THE STORY. IT’S  
REALLY JUST A HORRIBLE TEEN/Litle Tyke[Pokeman!] Type DEAL.(A ROTEN!  
ONE! At That!!!). Boo YEAH!!!, Way To KURRUPT(Sp?)(And Gram.)[Not REALLY,  
I MEANT THAT One!]Litte KIDS!(Enjoying The “GOLDEN”(LIT.![AtLeast that is what  
they attempted to teach US! In School.)AGE!

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/26 "2000-12-08T22:14:43Z")

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Well, that was enough to make be sign off for the week.

See ya!

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/27 "2000-12-08T22:16:02Z")

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AARGH! Make ME sign off!

I need a beer.

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/28 "2000-12-08T22:22:50Z")

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I am Jack’s total confusion.

😕

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2000, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/29 "2000-12-08T22:23:28Z")

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Now, now…I think everybody is being really unfair.  
After all, nobody’s picked on the random French words with translations yet.

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> [Also IS A BIG!!! THEME IN THE MoVIE!!!(Lol, VIE as in “LIFE”, FRENCH For “LIFE”, Get iT!, Lol, WOuldn’t OF Expected YOU Too! Until YOue SAT THROUGHT IS HORRIBLE!!!

Thanks for the frog lesson there, Sparky. I know you’re Canadian (At least I _think_that’s part of what you were babbling about at some point). And I assume you speak French. Probably better than you do English.

My only question: Aren’t Canadian schools supposed to be GOOD?

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**Author:** ![Rasa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rasa/32/3578_2.png) [@Rasa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rasa)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2000, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/30 "2000-12-09T00:58:37Z")

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“Cleanup on aisle 5 please, cleanup on aisle 5…”

GAH?!?

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Davidson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc8723/32.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Davidson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Lord_Davidson)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2000, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/31 "2000-12-09T01:03:13Z")

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The OP made -.25% sense. Please tell me you were kidding.

(I’ll bet you that utter garbage took him a long time to do)

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/32 "2000-12-13T14:36:09Z")

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I’m going to have to second Gadarene and Oldscratch on this. The OP needs to be looked at at least a second time to truly see (GLIMPSE!) the geniUS (US as In “uniTED sTAtes”!!) within.

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**Author:** ![Inky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7feea3/32.png) [@Inky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inky_1)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/33 "2000-12-13T15:22:30Z")

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You know, you could open a JPEG in notepad and get a more coherant stream of text.

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**Author:** ![Medea\_s\_Child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Medea\_s\_Child](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Medea_s_Child)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/34 "2000-12-13T16:20:54Z")

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Are all its posts like that?

my god.

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**Author:** ![Nurlman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Nurlman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nurlman)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/35 "2000-12-13T16:41:50Z")

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You know, with a bit of trimming here and there, and just a dash of extra punctuation, this actually starts to make sense:

> [@](#):
>
> IMPOrTANT!
> 
> I am GOD! Do NOT PANIC! Comfort in THAT! Trust Me!
> 
> I believe the French… Umm… “weak” is the only way to describe it. I DESIRE ALL THe Frogs To “SHOOT” Each OTHER! “I” BELIEVE those communistS cant be HELPed! THEY DON’T PLAY A KEY ROLE… REALLY JUST HORRIBLE ROTEN Litte KIDS! The FRENCH: BeHead a dozen!
> 
> I FEEL The NEED to “Possess” Linda Blair. You ARE ALL Of IT! Really!!! Can’t get enough! THE Biggest pussy in the entire Universe. YOU have the talents For my “QUEEN.” Yeah that Pussy. GIVE IN! NO ONE ever uses it. Man, She’s a Chick. The HOT Chick. SORRY If I’m SEXIST, Just the way “MY” Universe works!
> 
> SORRY!!! I’mREALLY Wrecked!
> 
> GOD IS "ME’, THE MOST IMPORTANT THing IN THIS UNIVRESE! I wish SomeONE HELP “ME” UNDERstand “Monty Python.” “I” Don’t really get it Myself. If you CAN MAKE Sense oF iT, COOL!
> 
> Man IF You’ve seen THE FRENCH … HORRIBLE!!! Who would of thought ANy INDividuals could have been SO Dumb! The Irish TOO! NOT WORTH THE EFFORT
> 
> MAN, AND BLACK PEOPLE, YOu GUY"S Are Calling THE “SHOTS”. African Americans/My Hommies, TRUST ME! I’mA BIG FAN Y’ALL!!! Not LIKE The FRENCH. GIVE IN To The NAZI’S? WhatEVER. A Coloured Fella DID"NT! The BLACK DOESN"T Give UP!!!
> 
> THE HOT Chick WithVERY BIG ONES, RED Hair, Who HAS SECRET Desires TO Be From SCANDINAVIA! Very, VERY DIM! BUT Man, With The POWER Body! Can’T GO Wrong with Scandinavin. GO DOwn somewheres important,You HOT CHICK!
> 
> ANe-ways, THIS IS GOD! I SuppORT Evolution! Darwin was a Great Guy! However, I REQuesting ya’ll HAVE FAITH In my Preachings! ya’ll KNOW "I"m Right!
> 
> Sweet Dreams.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/36 "2000-12-13T16:44:50Z")

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Well, here’s what I got, translated into English:

"Let me start by saying I’m not a big fan of Dungeons and Dragons. I’ve never really played the game. That being said, I went to see the new D&D movie and was disappointed. This movie was poorly executed from a technical standpoint. Special effects and animation were amaturish, and the plot, as well as the themes are derivative. Frankly, the fight scenes reminded me of the old Kung Fu movies.

_ **SPOILER** _  
Dragons actually play a minor part in this movie, and you only see them in a few scenes, which is something you wouldn’t expect from a movie with this title. This movie also falls into the “Pokemon trap”, by introducing strange animals as sidekicks, which have unusual powers. This movie seems to merely combine a number of movie cliches, and provides nothing new.

Turning to the acting, Jeremy Irons tried so hard (and failed, IMHO) to take on a dramatic role that he was almost comedic.

A brief note on magic. The magic used in this film was used in a similar way as “the force” was on Star Wars, which was another weakness. Magic is seen as a very powerful force, yet is used reluctantly by the characters, only in times of dire need.

If there was anything good in this movie it was the music, and I suspect that this movie was just created to spawn sequels.

I also was bothered by Marlon Wayans’ role in the film. It seems that Wayans only plays “stereotypically black” characters, and this was no exception. This character reminded me of his characters on “In Living Color”, and I found the fact that his character, the only black character in the movie, was a thief, to be offensive. This by no means is an attack on Wayans, because I feel he is a good actor, but rather on the white power structure of Hollywood, which doesn’t allow non-whites to take heroic roles in films.

This movie also has a number of holes in the plot and unexplained incidents that the viewer needs to figure out for itself. I didn’t like it."

Well, that’s my translation…I might have missed something.

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/37 "2000-12-13T19:09:43Z")

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The first thing I thought when I saw the OP was that Mr. Michael J. Farbish Had found the Straight Dope.  
See here—\> [http://pw2.netcom.com/~mfarbish/](http://pw2.netcom.com/~mfarbish/)

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/38 "2000-12-13T19:28:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Inky- \*  
> \*\*You know, you could open a JPEG in notepad and get a more coherant stream of text. \*\*

May I quote you on this? Possibly for use as a sig? 🙂

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**Author:** ![tevya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tevya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tevya)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2000, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dungeons-et-fr-and-dragons-or-so-i-was-lead-tobelive-spoiler-maybe/44620/39 "2000-12-18T20:19:20Z")

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I think that Captain Amazing did an appropriately Amazing job at translating the OP.

I also think that the OP is perhaps shizophrenic and off of his or her medications. The OP looks a lot like the barely coherent rantings that were often left at the Public Library by the homeless mentally ill.

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