# Dunkirk (Christopher Nolan)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 5, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861 "2016-08-05T18:48:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/21 "2016-12-14T23:21:40Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Will they include leaving behind thousands of Frenchmen?

Millions, actually.

The story of the 51st Highland Division (who got stuck in the collapsing France) would likely make a decent film.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/22 "2016-12-14T23:30:00Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Will they include leaving behind thousands of Frenchmen?

Thousands of British were also left behind, but yes, the lion’s share of those who formed the rear guard to protect the evacuation were French. The truly ironic thing is that about 100,000 French soldiers were among the 300,000+ or so total evacuated, but most of them were sent back to France after a few weeks where they soon faced the fall of the Third Republic.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/23 "2016-12-15T00:32:15Z")

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I guess I’m not in the consensus.

It’s Christoper Nolan so I have good expectations (although _Interstellar_). But I didn’t see anything particularly impressive in the teaser trailer.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/24 "2016-12-15T04:01:39Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> It didn’t take Hitler et al. long to realize they’d made a tremendous blunder (just two or three days).

Versus weeks, four years later. Hitler was slow on the uptake.

Where is the fabled British discipline? Where is the sergeant ordering them to fire in ranks on the Stuka? Massed .303 fire could fuck you up good. Ask the Red Baron. (Yeah, the jury’s out on who fired that round, and from what. Let’s just say there was a lot of .303 FMJ in his immediate vicinity, any one of which could fuck him up good, and some was aimed by someone who could lead a target.)

But I’m seeing. Absolutely one of the most important and thrilling events of the 20th century. Oldest was visiting her affianced in Blighty and took photos of Dover Castle, special for me.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/25 "2016-12-15T04:09:27Z")

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Eta: Okay some in official trailer. 😉 Btw, are you kidding? I’d be scared shitless. Which, I understand, is why sergeants need to be scarier. Or my grandmother, who by her mere existence and disapproving looks convinced my father that he was less scared of the Luftwaffe.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/26 "2016-12-15T04:22:21Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> You don’t like **this one**? :eek: :dubious:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNVVoH9-QH0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNVVoH9-QH0)

A Tante Ju!

We were gathered at the graveside of my wife’s grandmother when the most ungodly racket filled the air. A Ju-52, one of the last flying, was heading to Midway. I had to look.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/27 "2016-12-15T04:35:45Z")

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What’s the music in the trailer? Sounds so familiar.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/28 "2016-12-15T05:39:44Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> What’s the music in the trailer? Sounds so familiar.

It sounds like part of the soundtrack from Inception.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/29 "2016-12-15T17:09:24Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Will they include leaving behind thousands of Frenchmen?

Would you want to [given the possible consequences](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lancastria) - plenty of French nationals died on this ship.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dunkirk-christopher-nolan/761861/30 "2016-12-15T17:38:43Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Where is the sergeant ordering them to fire in ranks on the Stuka? Massed .303 fire could fuck you up good. Ask the Red Baron.

I think there were some slight differences between his plane and a Stuka…

And the whole point about Dunkirk was that it wasn’t exactly where any spare replacement armaments were likely to be sent to.

(The BBC did a major docudrama series about it in 2004:

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5tBX4z-w1w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5tBX4z-w1w))

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