# Dutch fans stripped. Fuck the greedy sleazy and corrupt Fifa **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2006, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859 "2006-06-23T14:08:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/41 "2006-06-24T16:12:31Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Does this happen in any other sport? Has anyone been forced to get rid of their ESPN t-shirt when going to a World Series game televised by FOX? Etc. A week or two ago, I was watching the Rockies game on FSN. The jerk who roams the stands found a couple of people with ESPN t-shirts and gave them FSN t-shirts to change into. It was in good fun though, not like this. ---
**Author:** ![Fish\_Cheer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fish_cheer/32/17179_2.png) [@Fish\_Cheer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Cheer)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/42 "2006-06-24T19:37:37Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > There are two kinds of people I can’t stand; those who are intolerant of others’ pants, and the Dutch. > [@The Flying Dutchman](#): > > :mad: > **[Quotes from "Austin Powers in Goldmember"](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0295178/quotes)** > > Nigel Powers: There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2006, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/43 "2006-06-24T22:59:30Z")
From the OP’s link: > [@](#): > > Either way, there is little doubt of the seemingly unlimited power that sponsors now wield over global sporting events - with British politicians controversially voting to give sponsors a major role in the 2012 London Olympics. Honestly, who didn’t see this coming? Ever since we started naming sports stadiums after corporate sponsors, they’ve been demanding more and more control over their investments in public entertainment. If people want sports games and other live entertainment to be genuinely local/national/international events where the attendees’ consumer choices don’t have to be screened for “brand correctness”, then they should pay the costs themselves. If they want commercial sponsors to pay for them, then they’ll just have to put up with this kind of brand totalitarianism. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/44 "2006-06-25T02:01:03Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > I point out that, if privately sponcered, the sponcers have a right to protect their investment. In a case like this where it involves demanding spectator compliance, only to the extent that their contracts with the ticket-buyers give them the right to do so. Having no idea what the fine print on the tickets says, I can’t speak to that, but that would seem to me to be a crucial but overlooked point in this discussion. From the OP’s link: > [@](#): > > Some of the most contentious debate during the passage of the London Olympics Bill through Parliament surrounded clauses designed to prohibit illicit use of the words “Olympic Games”, **“London 2012”** and the ringed symbol. OK, I’ll just say, “That fucking mess of a city on the Thames, at some indeterminate future date.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/45 "2006-06-25T08:47:07Z")
Maybe FIFA is really trying to help Bavaria out by giving them all this free publicity. It’s really a secret FIFA coup against Budweiser, cause deep down they hate American pisswater, so they signed the deal with Bud knowing full well that they’d be stripping Dutch fans of Bavaria pants and Bavaria would win out without ever having paid FIFA anything. Plus, free beer! Either that, or I really need to go to bed. > [@Dead Badger](#): > > Yes, amazingly. Actually the half-time adverts for Budweiser are pretty amusing - they have a pair of American commentators playing out some great spoofs of how we imagine you view football (which are probably pretty accurate for some people). Anywhere I can see these online, or can you describe them? I’d love to see that. > [@Kimstu](#): > > Honestly, who didn’t see this coming? Ever since we started naming sports stadiums after corporate sponsors, they’ve been demanding more and more control over their investments in public entertainment. If you went into a restaurant and demanded food in exchange for money, they’d give it to you, right? If you demanded coffee in exchange for money, they’d do that for you too, maybe even if you demanded coffee cups. If you demanded the restaurant, and you had enough money, they’d probably give you that too. But “demand” doesn’t really mean anything when you’re a private corporation who wants to maximize your profit on one of the greatest spectator sporting and beer drinking events in the world, in which you get to expose people from every corner of the globe from London to Seattle to Madrid to Buenos Aires to Canberra to Ghana to your products and the soccer federation gets a nice kick too. There is no Advertiser’s Union that “demands” rights for advertisers. The advertisers have money, the sports need money (how exactly do you think they pay the athletes?), the fans need sports, the Dutch need pants; everyone wins. > [@Kimstu](#): > > If they want commercial sponsors to pay for them, then they’ll just have to put up with this kind of brand totalitarianism. What, you want to pay thousands of dollars a pop to see a live event? No thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Fish\_Cheer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fish_cheer/32/17179_2.png) [@Fish\_Cheer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Cheer)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/46 "2006-06-25T20:57:07Z")
This is moot now anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/47 "2006-06-25T21:07:21Z")
Yeah and good riddance too. Extremely bad form of Holland to play, when they should have given the ball to Portugal after the free-kick. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/48 "2006-06-25T22:22:48Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > There are two kinds of people I can’t stand; those who are intolerant of others’ pants, and the Dutch. You can always tell the English, You can always tell the Dutch, You can always tell the Irish, But you can’t tell them much. ---
**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/49 "2006-06-25T23:12:43Z")
> [@Marienee](#): > > Heineken sued Bavaria last year over the pants and lost; a judge here said football fans could wear whatever they liked. > > There is also little doubt that most knew by game time that there was a chance they would be required to strip off at the Ivory Coast game. This of course caused even more people to go get a pair of the pants. The way I heard it most of them were wearing orange underwear for that very reason. **(My own admittedly limited survey does not, er, support the notion that Dutch guys ordinarily wear orange underwear).** > > All in all a brilliant bit of guerilla marketing. Final score: bavaria: 2; budweiser: 0. Hey, hey, not so fast. We need to consult with **Coldfire** on the validity of this statement. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/50 "2006-06-25T23:17:30Z")
In case anyone wants to see what these things [look like](http://articles.news.aol.com/news/photo.adp?id=20060603044909990012). ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/51 "2006-06-26T01:24:33Z")
Those are cool! Wish I could get a pair, but I’ve no prospects of a Netherlands vacation any time soon. And Heineken sucks! ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859/52 "2006-06-26T01:50:05Z")
> [@zagloba](#): > > Those are cool! Wish I could get a pair, but I’ve no prospects of a Netherlands vacation any time soon. > > And Heineken sucks! Never fear, one need not live in or visit Holland in order to get a pair. . . > [@](#): > > [http://www.bavariahollandbeer.us/home.html](http://www.bavariahollandbeer.us/home.html) > > We will soon have the lederhosen available in the US. [Contact us](http://www.bavariahollandbeer.us/newcontact.html) to get notified for pricing and availability! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dutch-fans-stripped-fuck-the-greedy-sleazy-and-corrupt-fifa/361859.md?page=2)