# E=mc2 is a liberal conspiracy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823 "2010-08-10T14:19:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/1 "2010-08-10T14:19:28Z")
At least according to Conservapedia founder Andrew Schlafly (son of Phyllis). > **[E=mc2 Is a Liberal Conspiracy](https://www.gawker.com/5608853/emc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy)** > > To many conservatives, almost everything is a secret liberal plot: from fluoride in the water to medicare reimbursements for end-of-life planning with your doctor to efforts to teach evolution in schools. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/2 "2010-08-10T14:27:06Z")
Well, in fairness to Jesus, I don’t recall hearing about any other gods that understood the TOR either. Unless you consider Einstein a god, which I’m sure many do. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/3 "2010-08-10T14:33:37Z")
The truth has a liberal bias, remember. ---
**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/4 "2010-08-10T14:41:06Z")
Of course the people living then had the instruments necessary to measure this. > [@](#): > > Conservapedia defines “action-at-a-distance” as "Action at a distance consists of affecting a distant body instantaneously. At the atom level, this is known as “non-locality.” In non-confusing terms, that indicates the ability to cause something to happen instantaneously in another location (i.e., faster than the speed of light). Since Jesus could, reportedly, do this, thus Einstein is wrong. Schlafly’s evidence is [John 4:46-54](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+4%3A46-54&version=NIV), in which Jesus reportedly cured someone’s son just by saying it had happened. > Once more he visited Cana in Galilee, where he had turned the water into wine. And there was a certain royal official whose son lay sick at Capernaum. > When this man heard that Jesus had arrived in Galilee from Judea, he went to him and begged him to come and heal his son, who was close to death. > “Unless you people see miraculous signs and wonders,” Jesus told him, “you will never believe.” > The royal official said, “Sir, come down before my child dies.” > Jesus replied, "You may go. Your son will live."The man took Jesus at his word and departed. > While he was still on the way, his servants met him with the news that his boy was living. > When he inquired as to the time when his son got better, they said to him, “The fever left him yesterday at the seventh hour.” > Then the father realized that this was the exact time at which Jesus had said to him, “Your son will live.” So he and all his household believed. Because, see, “at the seventh hour” would have been measured by two people, one with Jesus, one at the official’s son’s sickbed using synchronized timepieces who would then communicate, somehow, to each other exactly when the words were spoken and when the healing happened. ---
**Author:** ![Yossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de0a6/32.png) [@Yossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yossarian)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/5 "2010-08-10T14:43:35Z")
Jesus rose from the dead after three days. DID EINSTEIN??? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/6 "2010-08-10T14:51:56Z")
And there was me thinking it was phallocentric and [sexist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luce_Irigaray#Contributions_to_feminist_theory) because: > [@Some crazy-ass feminist](#): > > it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are vitally necessary to us ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/7 "2010-08-10T14:55:55Z")
Schlafly doesn’t like the theory of relativity because of the word “relativity”, which he conflates with the word “relativism” But, you know, there are a lot of idiots out there who believe idiotic stuff. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/8 "2010-08-10T15:03:47Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Schlafly doesn’t like the theory of relativity because of the word “relativity”, which he conflates with the word “relativism” But, you know, there are a lot of idiots out there who believe idiotic stuff. Apparently he’s read Paul Johnson’s _Modern Times,_ which **does** draw a causal link between the Theory of Relativity and 20th-Century moral relativism. Whether there’s anything to that is debatable. Johnson stresses that Einstein himself had the “proper scientific attitude,” stating he would not consider his theory even provisionally proven until at least two of three verification experiments he proposed produced data in agreement with his predictions (they did), and seeing no implications at all for his theory in ethics or politics. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/9 "2010-08-10T15:06:28Z")
Love this comment: > [@](#): > > Wait a minute, Jesus had mass, and Jesus is the light! The theory stands! ---
**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/10 "2010-08-10T15:45:27Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Love this comment: > > > [@](#): > > > > Wait a minute, Jesus had mass, and Jesus is the light! The theory stands! I thought the church had Mass. Usually on Sunday mornings.😕 ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/11 "2010-08-10T16:01:01Z")
Here we have people who claim that God can break the laws of physics claiming that the laws of physics are wrong because God can break them. Whaa? If we can going to call any statement of fact wrong because God isn’t bound by that fact, don’t we have to throw out all information as useless? Circular Jesus logic means nothing is true unless your religious leader tells you so. What a happy place to be if you are a religious leader. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/12 "2010-08-10T16:08:50Z")
OK, so if Jesus can heal people from a distance, how does that negate the ToR? The kid was maybe a few miles away (say 5), and light travels at 186000 miles per second, so Jesus’s healing energy would have gotten there in .000003 seconds. It would never have occurred to anybody back then to account for such a small amount of time, so maybe that’s why the verse isn’t “The fever left him yesterday at the seventh hour plus .000003 seconds.” ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/13 "2010-08-10T16:16:57Z")
> [@shiftless](#): > > Here we have people who claim that God can break the laws of physics claiming that the laws of physics are wrong because God can break them. And that’s exactly it. If the invalid was healed at the _exact same instant_ Jesus said it, without even a lightspeed delay, all that means is that God can violate the lightspeed constraint just as he can bring the dead back to life. It doesn’t invalidate the general principles that nothing can act faster than light and the dead stay dead. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/14 "2010-08-10T16:20:37Z")
The Onion should just start plagiarizing Conservapedia for its headlines. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/15 "2010-08-10T16:26:28Z")
Conservapedia is a perfect example of [Poe’s Law](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlehkm94ato) – it’s impossible to distinguish between the trolls and the sincere nut cases. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/16 "2010-08-10T17:00:38Z")
> [@Yossarian](#): > > Jesus rose from the dead after three days. DID EINSTEIN??? With a little help . . . The rest of that evening I’d just as soon forget. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/17 "2010-08-10T17:02:13Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Conservapedia is a perfect example of [Poe’s Law](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlehkm94ato) – it’s impossible to distinguish between the trolls and the sincere nut cases. And guess what! [Conservapedia has its own entry on Poe’s Law.](http://www.conservapedia.com/Poe's_law) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/18 "2010-08-10T17:20:07Z")
There was a young Christian named Bright “The Lord is much faster than light! He was living on Easter But they nailed up his keister On Friday, still three days away!” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/19 "2010-08-10T17:37:28Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > > > Conservapedia is a perfect example of [Poe’s Law](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlehkm94ato) – it’s impossible to distinguish between the trolls and the sincere nut cases. > > And guess what! [Conservapedia has its own entry on Poe’s Law.](http://www.conservapedia.com/Poe's_law) Oh, dear God. ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/20 "2010-08-10T17:38:30Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > And guess what! [Conservapedia has its own entry on Poe’s Law.](http://www.conservapedia.com/Poe's_law) Thanks for the link. It’s like stepping into topsy-turvy world. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823.md?page=2)