# E=mc2 is a liberal conspiracy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 10, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823 "2010-08-10T14:19:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/41 "2010-08-11T00:43:32Z")

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> [@cuauhtemoc](#):
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> > [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> > From the [Conservapedia page on the Theory of Relativity](http://www.conservapedia.com/Relativity):
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> This cannot be real, can it? Is Conservapedia like Wikipedia, where the general public can edit the articles? Because my mind won’t let me believe this entry is sincere. It has to be a prank, right?

The general public can edit the articles, because it is a wiki, but you need a user name to edit, and if you make an edit the admins don’t like, they’ll revert the edit and ban you. So, if the text is still in the article, that means the admins approve.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/42 "2010-08-11T01:11:20Z")

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> [@Yossarian](#):
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> Jesus rose from the dead after three days. DID EINSTEIN???

Well, [his brain went for a ride 42 years later](http://www.amazon.com/Driving-Mr-Albert-America-Einsteins/dp/038533303X). Does that count?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/43 "2010-08-11T01:53:27Z")

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This thread shows the need to have a national conversation (or at least an SDMB conversation) on what a “conservative” is. The dude in the OP, while the founder of a “conservative” website, seems to be motivated in this regard by simple religiosity. Lots of religious people are conservatives, but that doesn’t mean that any idea thought up by a religious person is a “conservative” idea.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/44 "2010-08-11T02:04:28Z")

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I don’t usually comment on the Google ads at the bottom of a thread, but I couldn’t help but notice this thread’s ads included one for “Lesbian Personals.”

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/45 "2010-08-11T02:22:45Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> This thread shows the need to have a national conversation (or at least an SDMB conversation) on what a “conservative” is. The dude in the OP, while the founder of a “conservative” website, seems to be motivated in this regard by simple religiosity. Lots of religious people are conservatives, but that doesn’t mean that any idea thought up by a religious person is a “conservative” idea.

Wow. A conservative exists that even **Rand Rover** won’t defend. Was that a rip in the fabric of space/time I just heard? 😉

But seriously, to your point, and I know this is a complete hijack, so I apologize in advance, how can one objectively define a conservative when conservatives themselves don’t, can’t, or won’t agree on a definition? Hm…probably deserves its own thread.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/46 "2010-08-11T02:25:58Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> This thread shows the need to have a national conversation (or at least an SDMB conversation) on what a “conservative” is.

[Here you go.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11310021&postcount=28)

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/47 "2010-08-11T04:10:43Z")

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This does basically mean we have to line up all the conservatives and shoot them, right? There is absolutely no reasoning with them.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/48 "2010-08-11T04:22:06Z")

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Well, it’s all relative.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/49 "2010-08-11T04:31:00Z")

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Hey, not all the relatives! I’m from Texas, and some of my kin are just to the left of Otto von Bismarck.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/50 "2010-08-11T04:42:36Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> > [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> > So, maybe, MAYBE, that’s the rationale behind the OP’s link. (I keep trying to figure out why kooks think the way they do. What does that make me?)
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> Eternally frustrated, I’d say, if “because they’re kooks” doesn’t satisfy you.

Maybe I should start looking at you closer then.

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/51 "2010-08-11T06:43:46Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> > [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> > Conservapedia is a perfect example of [Poe’s Law](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlehkm94ato) – it’s impossible to distinguish between the trolls and the sincere nut cases.
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> And guess what! [Conservapedia has its own entry on Poe’s Law.](http://www.conservapedia.com/Poe's_law)

For your sanity I don’t recommend following the link that goes to their hilarious parody of evolution:[the flying kitty](http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_The_transitional_animal_the_flying_kitty%3F)

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/52 "2010-08-11T07:51:34Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Hey, not all the relatives! I’m from Texas, and some of my kin are just to the left of Otto von Bismarck.

So they support UHC?

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**Author:** ![Yossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de0a6/32.png) [@Yossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yossarian)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/53 "2010-08-11T12:35:39Z")

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It’s like the real-life version of my all-time favorite Onion article:

> **[Christian Right Lobbies To Overturn Second Law Of Thermodynamics](https://www.theonion.com/christian-right-lobbies-to-overturn-second-law-of-therm-1819565726)**
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> TOPEKA, KS–The second law of thermodynamics, a fundamental scientific principle stating that entropy increases over time as organized forms decay into greater states of randomness, has come under fire from conservative Christian groups, who are...

Prescient, eh?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/54 "2010-08-11T13:09:28Z")

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> [@Yossarian](#):
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> Jesus rose from the dead after three days. DID EINSTEIN???

Damn that’s some quotable funny right there, that is!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/55 "2010-08-11T14:12:11Z")

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> [@DanBlather](#):
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> This does basically mean we have to line up all the conservatives and shoot them, right? There is absolutely no reasoning with them.

Gee, I dunno . . . That’s kinda . . . But the alternatives . . . Well . . .

Oh, all right. But only if I get to go through their pockets and pull their fillings.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/56 "2010-08-11T14:33:36Z")

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> [@Taber](#):
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> > [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> > And guess what! [Conservapedia has its own entry on Poe’s Law.](http://www.conservapedia.com/Poe's_law)
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> For your sanity I don’t recommend following the link that goes to their hilarious parody of evolution:[the flying kitty](http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_The_transitional_animal_the_flying_kitty%3F)

Now I’m all confused. Who are they making fun of?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/57 "2010-08-11T14:47:12Z")

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From that site:

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> Dr. Duane Gish consistently won his debates with evolutionists.[1] **Presently, leading evolutionists no longer debate creation scientists**

I wonder why…

(Bolding mine)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/58 "2010-08-11T14:51:25Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> > [@Taber](#):
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> > For your sanity I don’t recommend following the link that goes to their hilarious parody of evolution:[the flying kitty](http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_The_transitional_animal_the_flying_kitty%3F)
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> Now I’m all confused. Who are they making fun of?

Creationists consider it an objection to the theory of evolution that (in the version most commonly understood) it assumes a gradual transition over time from one species to another (see [phyletic gradualism](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyletic_gradualism)), and in some cases “transitional” forms don’t seem to make sense, e.g., partly-evolved wings are useless for flying. But see [punctuated equilibrium](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuated_equilibrium) and [hopeful monster.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopeful_Monster)

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**Author:** ![3waygeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/e95f7d/32.png) [@3waygeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3waygeek)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/59 "2010-08-11T15:06:31Z")

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> [@DanBlather](#):
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> This does basically mean we have to line up all the conservatives and shoot them, right? There is absolutely no reasoning with them.

Shooting them isn’t the best choice if your intention is to kill them. After all, chances are pretty small that you’ll hit them in the heart or brain. 😉

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/60 "2010-08-11T15:24:51Z")

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> [@DanBlather](#):
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> This does basically mean we have to line up all the conservatives and shoot them, right? There is absolutely no reasoning with them.

As a conservative (if you read BrainGlutton’s link, I’m apparently a “(paleo)Progressive”) in some senses, I’d be on board with just shooting the Schlaflys.

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