# E=mc2 is a liberal conspiracy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823 "2010-08-10T14:19:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/61 "2010-08-11T16:24:09Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > From that site: > > > [@](#): > > > > Dr. Duane Gish consistently won his debates with evolutionists.[1] **Presently, leading evolutionists no longer debate creation scientists** > > I wonder why… > > (Bolding mine) Yeah, that got my attention, too. But the full quote (which somehow came up with a reference for the statement) is even more revealing: > [@Conservapedia (apparently](#): > > “Generally speaking, leading evolutionists generally no longer debate creation scientists because creation scientists tend to win the debates.[sup][5][/sup]” Why, that’d be just like those evilutionists . . . slinking away when they know they can’t win. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/62 "2010-08-11T19:05:32Z")
> [@Yossarian](#): > > It’s like the real-life version of my all-time favorite Onion article: > > [http://www.theonion.com/articles/christian-right-lobbies-to-overturn-second-law-of,281/](http://www.theonion.com/articles/christian-right-lobbies-to-overturn-second-law-of,281/) > > Prescient, eh? That article reminds me of [this](http://www.theonion.com/articles/evangelical-scientists-refute-gravity-with-new-int,1778/) one. I love how they always dateline these articles somewhere in Kansas. ---
**Author:** ![Yossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de0a6/32.png) [@Yossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yossarian)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/63 "2010-08-11T20:08:12Z")
That’s my second favorite! > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@Yossarian](#): > > > > Jesus rose from the dead after three days. DID EINSTEIN??? > > Damn that’s some quotable funny right there, that is! I think it may have been a childhood flashback… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/64 "2010-08-11T20:36:34Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > This thread shows the need to have a national conversation (or at least an SDMB conversation) on what a “conservative” is. The dude in the OP, while the founder of a “conservative” website, seems to be motivated in this regard by simple religiosity. Lots of religious people are conservatives, but that doesn’t mean that any idea thought up by a religious person is a “conservative” idea. Who cares. The whole thing is stupid, and some people find that funny. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/65 "2010-08-11T22:41:02Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The truth has a liberal bias, remember. Apparently, the Bible has a liberal bias, too. [Conservapedia to rewrite the Bible to reflect Conservative values.](http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project) ---
**Author:** ![Alienhand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Alienhand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alienhand)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/66 "2010-08-12T00:14:47Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > Apparently, the Bible has a liberal bias, too. > > [Conservapedia to rewrite the Bible to reflect Conservative values.](http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project) You mean “[…to reflect Colbert values](http://conservapedia.com/Colbert#Relationship_with_Conservapedia)”. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/67 "2010-08-12T04:17:07Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > This thread shows the need to have a national conversation (or at least an SDMB conversation) on what a “conservative” is. The dude in the OP, while the founder of a “conservative” website, seems to be motivated in this regard by simple religiosity. Lots of religious people are conservatives, but that doesn’t mean that any idea thought up by a religious person is a “conservative” idea. Hear! Hear! I hate being accused of believing that stupid shit, when I’m not even a Christian! ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/68 "2010-08-12T04:25:08Z")
> [@3waygeek](#): > > > [@DanBlather](#): > > > > This does basically mean we have to line up all the conservatives and shoot them, right? There is absolutely no reasoning with them. > > Shooting them isn’t the best choice if your intention is to kill them. After all, chances are pretty small that you’ll hit them in the heart or brain. 😉 Mainly because you lefties a) don’t know where either are located, or what they’re for, and b) can’t shoot for shit. You’re infinitely more likely to shoot yourselves in the foot. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/69 "2010-08-12T04:30:07Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > > The truth has a liberal bias, remember. > > Apparently, the Bible has a liberal bias, too. > > [Conservapedia to rewrite the Bible to reflect Conservative values.](http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project) I used to attend a _So Conservative They Be Whacko_ Fundie Church (seriously, that was the denomination – First Church of Fundie!), and they would LOVE to rewrite the Bible to get rid of all those pesky Socialist verses. Instead they just ignored half of what Jesus said. I know we all do that to an extent, but these folks? Whoa… Seriously, plunk them down in Biblical times at the Sermon On The Mount, and I picture them all with their fingers in their ears “La la LAAAA la la…” – I mean, if \*I \*were there I’d be the guy saying “Blessed are the … _Cheesemakers_?”-- but i’d at least be _trying_… ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/70 "2010-08-12T06:02:35Z")
The first rule of Relativity Conspiracy Club is … you don’t talk about Relativity Conspiracy Club! – Hops onto his Jeebus Horse and gallops into the distance. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/71 "2010-08-12T07:31:37Z")
The fact that I did not ignore Jesus is why I thought I was a conservative. I mean, I was always taught that all Christians must be conservatives. Since I agreed with Jesus (and Paul), I must also be conservative. That is, until I started reading what conservatives actually believed. About the only thing they had going for them was their pro-life stance, and I even found that was one thing that I was not absolute on. I just couldn’t see any place in the Bible where human life must start at conception. Ironically, it is now my Christianity that seems to slip–when I get angry. It’s a flaw I’ve always had, but it just didn’t happen often enough for me to care. And you know what happens when it does happen? I wind up being, if not actually conservative, more totalitarian–the other opposite of liberal. Gah–I’ve went so far from the OP, I’d better stop, before I get in GD territory. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/72 "2010-08-12T13:00:38Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > > [@3waygeek](#): > > > > Shooting them isn’t the best choice if your intention is to kill them. After all, chances are pretty small that you’ll hit them in the heart or brain. 😉 > > Mainly because you lefties a) don’t know where either are located, or what they’re for, and b) can’t shoot for shit. You’re infinitely more likely to shoot yourselves in the foot. Eh, I know quite a few lefties who can put 8/10 in the X-ring at the range every time, watch where you’re painting with that brush. The reason you don’t want to shoot the Schlaflys is that you’re vanishingly unlikely to hit Phyllis’ phylactery anyway. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/73 "2010-08-12T14:54:34Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > This thread shows the need to have a national conversation (or at least an SDMB conversation) on what a “conservative” is. The dude in the OP, while the founder of a “conservative” website, seems to be motivated in this regard by simple religiosity. Lots of religious people are conservatives, but that doesn’t mean that any idea thought up by a religious person is a “conservative” idea. > > Hear! Hear! I hate being accused of believing that stupid shit, when I’m not even a Christian! There, there, **Cheshire,** it’s all right. There’s still **plenty** of stupid RW shit left for you to believe! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/74 "2010-08-12T15:02:40Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > The reason you don’t want to shoot the Schlaflys is that you’re vanishingly unlikely to hit Phyllis’ phylactery anyway. Dang, that has got to be the most whack sentence ever…not only does it invoke Lovecraftian prose, but it also injects a little alliteration. (I did it too, see?) ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/75 "2010-08-12T15:40:14Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > > [@Zeriel](#): > > > > The reason you don’t want to shoot the Schlaflys is that you’re vanishingly unlikely to hit Phyllis’ phylactery anyway. > > Dang, that has got to be the most whack sentence ever…not only does it invoke Lovecraftian prose, but it also injects a little alliteration. (I did it too, see?) I aim to please. And at phylacteries, in case you missed the subtle pun. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/76 "2010-08-12T15:57:55Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > This thread shows the need to have a national conversation (or at least an SDMB conversation) on what a “conservative” is. The dude in the OP, while the founder of a “conservative” website, seems to be motivated in this regard by simple religiosity. Lots of religious people are conservatives, but that doesn’t mean that any idea thought up by a religious person is a “conservative” idea. > > Wow. A conservative exists that even **Rand Rover** won’t defend. Was that a rip in the fabric of space/time I just heard? 😉 That ripping noise was the tent wall as **Rand** threw Schlafly out of the tent under the No True Conservative rules. Conservatives are always right, Schlafly is wrong to the point of insanity, and therefore he can’t possibly be a conservative. QED. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/77 "2010-08-12T16:06:25Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > Mainly because you lefties a) don’t know where either are located, or what they’re for, and b) can’t shoot for shit. You’re infinitely more likely to shoot yourselves in the foot. Some of us, myself included, shoot good enough. More than good enough. We just aren’t “into” shooting people. Or threatening to shoot people. We Libruls aren’t the ones bringing our “hardware” to our Tea Bagger meetin’s. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/78 "2010-08-12T20:06:05Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > > [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > > > Mainly because you lefties a) don’t know where either are located, or what they’re for, and b) can’t shoot for shit. You’re infinitely more likely to shoot yourselves in the foot. > > Eh, I know quite a few lefties who can put 8/10 in the X-ring at the range every time, watch where you’re painting with that brush. They started painting us righties with the Schlaughly brush, first! 😛 > [@](#): > > The reason you don’t want to shoot the Schlaflys is that you’re vanishingly unlikely to hit Phyllis’ phylactery anyway. No, but I bet the sphincter is a large target on Schlaughlys… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/79 "2010-08-12T20:27:10Z")
Phylactery? Oy! ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823/80 "2010-08-13T05:06:38Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > > > Wow. A conservative exists that even **Rand Rover** won’t defend. Was that a rip in the fabric of space/time I just heard? 😉 > > That ripping noise was the tent wall as **Rand** threw Schlafly out of the tent under the No True Conservative rules. Conservatives are always right, Schlafly is wrong to the point of insanity, and therefore he can’t possibly be a conservative. QED. So, a serious question: at what point CAN you throw someone out of your tent for disagreeing with you and your platform? Do we need a new word for “fiscal conservative who hates social conservatives?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-mc2-is-a-liberal-conspiracy/549823.md?page=5)