# E-Type Jagauar.....how do you drive when the front bumper is so far away?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 20, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503 "2018-05-20T13:26:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/1 "2018-05-20T13:26:55Z")

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So some guy named Harry just got hisself all hitched-up to his gal Meggy with some big fancy weddin’ party.  
And they drove there in a really,really cool-lookin’ [E type Jag](http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/05/19/harry-and-meghans-blue-jaguar-is-500000-green-machine.html).

Now, take a look at the pic in the link: …The most famous car in automotive history sure looks terrific.  
But me, I’m thinkin’: Gee whiz ,how do you actually drive that thing?  
Because that sleek curvy hood\* is just… _too long_!

How is visibility for the driver, sitting so far back from the front bumper?  
Can you easily see, say, a dead porcupine\*\* on the road ahead of you?  
What is it like when you drive it to work in Monday morning traffic?  
How do you maneuver it in a tight parking space?

\*bonnet, for you Brits. Sorry if I offended y’all. 🙂

\*\*hedgehog. Sorry, again.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/2 "2018-05-20T13:35:24Z")

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Must be hell to parallel park. 🙂

But I assume that Harry and Meghan don’t go anywhere you need to parallel park, and instead have flunkies to park for them.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/3 "2018-05-20T13:45:02Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Must be hell to parallel park. 🙂

Especially when you’re sitting on the wrong side. 🙂

But yeah, they don’t often have to do it anyway.

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Considering the history of Lucas, I’m stunned at the thought of an electric British car.

😃

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/5 "2018-05-20T14:00:52Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> Now, take a look at the pic in the link: …The most famous car in automotive history sure looks terrific.  
> But me, I’m thinkin’: Gee whiz ,how do you actually drive that thing?  
> Because that sleek curvy hood\* is just… _too long_!

The proportions hide the fact that the E-type is actually pretty small, and the hood isn’t long but rather the rear is short. I drove one for a bit at a “key party” type meet, where everyone dumps their keys in a bowl and you drive whatever keys you pull out. It wasn’t much different than the [BMW Z3 coupe](http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads19/z3107a1316797655.jpg) I drove to the meet that day.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/6 "2018-05-20T14:08:29Z")

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A) That ain’t what I call a ‘key party’

B) A lot of older cars are that way. Even the classic [Mustangs](https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1034614/1968-ford-mustang-gt-cs-(california-special)-for-sale-in-lutz-florida-33559) had very long hoods in comparison to today’s sloped hoods. It isn’t actually that hard to drive when you get used to it.

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**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/7 "2018-05-21T09:43:19Z")

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OMG that Jag is beautiful. I want an E-type. But one that is more reliable. And more powerful. And less expensive.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/8 "2018-05-21T10:34:55Z")

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess, because I’ve never liked that car. It’s proportioned like a clown shoe.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/9 "2018-05-21T11:25:09Z")

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> The proportions hide the fact that the E-type is actually pretty small, and the hood isn’t long but rather the rear is short.

Agreed. I’d bet the E-type has a shorter bonnet than most American cars of its era, it’s just smaller overall. Standard engine was only a six-cylinder (but a bloody good one).

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/10 "2018-05-21T11:44:57Z")

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I’d rather a long nose compared to the modern trend of not being able to see any of the car at all past the windscreen.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/11 "2018-05-21T12:07:25Z")

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When I turned 16, my family had a Dodge van with _nothing_ in front of the windshield. Much of the engine was alongside the driver, under a hatch. It was weird driving any car after learning on that.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/12 "2018-05-21T12:59:25Z")

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Enzo Ferrari  
Said that Jaguar E-type was “the most beautiful car in the world.”  
I do not believe that you can get a better compliment than that.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/13 "2018-05-21T13:23:12Z")

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Years ago, Car and Driver surveyed automotive designers, and the E-type got the most votes for most beautiful car. It is kind of a polarizing look, though, so I get why some find it unattractive.

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> [@Capn\_Carl](#):
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> Years ago, Car and Driver surveyed automotive designers, and the E-type got the most votes for most beautiful car. It is kind of a polarizing look, though, so I get why some find it unattractive.

no surprise, old guys love the stuff they grew up with. That’s why '70s muscle cars are fetching 6-7 figures at auctions.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/15 "2018-05-21T15:24:37Z")

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> [@Seren359](#):
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> Enzo Ferrari  
> Said that Jaguar E-type was “the most beautiful car in the world.”  
> I do not believe that you can get a better compliment than that.

He also said, “The Jeep is the only real American sports car.”

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/16 "2018-05-21T15:42:25Z")

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> [@Capn\_Carl](#):
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> OMG that Jag is beautiful. I want an E-type. But one that is more reliable. And more powerful. And less expensive.

I always preferred the 1960s [Jag 420](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_420_and_Daimler_Sovereign_(1966%E2%80%9369)#/media/File:Jag_420_Daimler_Sov.jpg), myself. More elegance to the lines and fine working. The E-type will pull more horses, though.

Hell, I’m just an antiquarian.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/17 "2018-05-21T18:26:46Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> no surprise, old guys love the stuff they grew up with.

I’d say even modern designers (and lots of ordinary people) would agree with that assessment - I"m guessing that’s why it was in the royal wedding. Of course, they had the tricky part of finding something British and non-controversial, and their hey-day of the 60s is the safest bet.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/18 "2018-05-21T19:56:24Z")

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Well, you see kids . . .

My Dad had a 1976 LeMans, now THAT was a long hood. I hated driving that thing. My brother and I called it the “Pimp Mobile.” [It looked like this, only white with a black leather roof.](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/59/76/cd/5976cd19ab0bb1e1c8453dbbe25299ab--pontiac-lemans-matt.jpg)

But I did like driving the ['69 ragtop LeMans which looked like this but with black leather seats (and no dents.)](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Pontiac-LeMans-front.jpg/1200px-Pontiac-LeMans-front.jpg). That was my car in high school.

It’s all in what you are accustomed to. That Jag would creep me out because I’d be paranoid about getting rear-ended. I don’t like any car with seats right up against the back bumper.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e-type-jagauar-how-do-you-drive-when-the-front-bumper-is-so-far-away/814503/19 "2018-05-21T20:15:32Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Especially when you’re sitting on the wrong side. 🙂

No, he was sitting on the [del]right[/del] correct\* side; it’s just they _drive_ on the wrong side.

- the Jag Harry drove off in is actually a left-hand drive car.

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> Agreed. I’d bet the E-type has a shorter bonnet than most American cars of its era, it’s just smaller overall. Standard engine was only a six-cylinder (but a bloody good one).

The E-Type had a six-cylinder engine, but it was an inline six. That would be longer than a comparable V-8.

> [@kayaker](#):
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> When I turned 16, my family had a Dodge van with _nothing_ in front of the windshield. Much of the engine was alongside the driver, under a hatch. It was weird driving any car after learning on that.

I had a Volkswagen bus for a while. Visibility wasn’t an issue , but I did have to get used to the driving position. The front seats were directly above the front wheels. If I was in a parking lot, and turning in to a particular space, it almost felt like I was driving past it before making the turn, if that makes any sense. I would think that might take some getting used to in the Jaguar; when you’re making a turn into a tight space you have to account for how far behind the front wheels you are.

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