# E85 Fuel - Can I add Some in my non E85 Car?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 9, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e85-fuel-can-i-add-some-in-my-non-e85-car/615213 "2012-03-09T00:22:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![JoshuaSD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@JoshuaSD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoshuaSD)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e85-fuel-can-i-add-some-in-my-non-e85-car/615213/1 "2012-03-09T00:22:20Z")

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I know from internet searches that E85 cannot be used repeatedly in a car not designed for it because of corrosion issues.  
I also read that accidentally filling your tank once should not hurt your car.

What I cant find an answer to is this:

1. Will small amounts of E85 added with each fill up of regular gas hurt the car? Let’s say a 9 to 1 ratio.
2. Would I see a fuel efficiency increase, decrease or no change?

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**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e85-fuel-can-i-add-some-in-my-non-e85-car/615213/2 "2012-03-09T00:25:16Z")

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Don’t know about #1, but I have driven a car that is designed to take either regular gasoline or E85, and it gets worse mileage with E85 than with regular gas, so I would presume that you would get worse mileage.

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**Author:** ![bizerta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@bizerta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizerta)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e85-fuel-can-i-add-some-in-my-non-e85-car/615213/3 "2012-03-09T01:25:40Z")

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> [@robert\_columbia](#):
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> Don’t know about #1, but I have driven a car that is designed to take either regular gasoline or E85, and it gets worse mileage with E85 than with regular gas, so I would presume that you would get worse mileage.

The energy content of E85 is 72% that of pure gasoline, so your 29 MPG car is only going to get 21 MPG with E85. Instead of 290 miles on a tankful, you’re only going 210 miles. Of course, the fuel tax is still the same per gallon, so it’s effectively a 39% jump in road tax (per mile). At a Shell station in Charlestown, MA, the E85 price is only 13% lower than the gasoline price, for a net increase of 20% in cost-pre-mile. Anyone who buys E85 with the thought of saving money has not done their homework.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e85-fuel-can-i-add-some-in-my-non-e85-car/615213/4 "2012-03-09T01:41:44Z")

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1, Most cars these days can handle E15, so if you mix E85 and regular fuel (probably E15 in most areas these days) in a 9 to 1 ratio, the ethanol concentration is still going to be low enough that I wouldn’t expect any major problems from it.

1. Your mileage will definitely decrease, as bizerta’s post explains.

I have to ask, though. Why on earth would you think that this would be a good thing to do?

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**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e85-fuel-can-i-add-some-in-my-non-e85-car/615213/5 "2012-03-09T02:58:51Z")

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> [@bizerta](#):
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> Anyone who buys E85 with the thought of saving money has not done their homework.

Unless you’re filling up with E85 before returning a rental car. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e85-fuel-can-i-add-some-in-my-non-e85-car/615213/6 "2012-03-09T05:58:09Z")

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Is this another alias for the doper that was going to run deisel in a rental car?

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**Author:** ![JoshuaSD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@JoshuaSD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoshuaSD)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/e85-fuel-can-i-add-some-in-my-non-e85-car/615213/7 "2012-03-10T20:58:19Z")

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Thanks all this is exactly what I wanted to find out. My goal is to maximize the mileage of my 2011 Ford Focus. Through driving adjustments and proper tire inflation I’m up to a stable 35 MPG. I was thinking maybe a little E85 could boost it a few and lower my emissions too. Looks like that’s not the answer though.
