# Ear training fun - give it a try.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 16, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666 "2017-12-16T18:37:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666/1 "2017-12-16T18:37:10Z")

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Can you name the first three notes to “Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas”? Do the poll first without listening to the song and then have a listen and let us know if your answer changed. I’ll post a spoiler with the answer later.

Well, I messed up the poll. Here are your choices:

CDE  
CEF  
CEG  
EFG  
EGA  
EGC  
GAC  
GBC  
GCD  
GCE  
[Link to song](https://youtu.be/jxxTHzERTsk?t=6s)

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666/2 "2017-12-16T18:39:29Z")

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It’s the root, third and fifth of the chord (the fourth note is the octave root).

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666/3 "2017-12-16T19:36:32Z")

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[spoiler]As burpo said, it’s a very common melody fragment. Just a regular old major triad, broken up into three separate notes. I’m guessing most people with at least a year of music lessons under their belt would notice this right away – then, it’s just a matter of seeing which of your combinations makes up a major triad. Luckily, you made it even easier by arbitrarily choosing to do it in C major – the first key (and scale) most people learn (if they start with piano, anyway).

If you had included MORE THAN ONE major triad in your list, then part of what you’d be testing is perfect pitch, which very few have (you’re basically born with it, or not).[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666/4 "2017-12-16T19:49:38Z")

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I didn’t mean to sound like a Scrooge – this kind of ear training is fun, helpful, and seasonally appropriate, so thanks!

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666/5 "2017-12-16T20:18:53Z")

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My wife–the piano teacher–gives me guff all the time about my love of dissonance, in particular, the Major 7th chord. I love to put the M7th in where it’s not called for and, conversely, try to resolve a M7th chord (like the M7th in “Have Yourself…” at “…days of yore.”) The vibrations in my head are cosmic, man. 😉

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666/6 "2017-12-16T20:31:32Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> My wife–the piano teacher–gives me guff all the time about my love of dissonance, in particular, the Major 7th chord. I love to put the M7th in where it’s not called for and, conversely, try to resolve a M7th chord (like the M7th in “Have Yourself…” at “…days of yore.”) The vibrations in my head are cosmic, man. 😉

Maj7 can be wistful and lovely, and classy, too. I think of “Stairway to Heaven” (“…and she’s buying…”), or Vince Guiraldi’s "[Christmas Time Is Here."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ecxYVujTKw) (skip to 14:16 for a juicy one).

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666/7 "2017-12-16T20:42:27Z")

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That album is a blast! [Makes me wanna get up and](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1LUXQWzCno)… .

Mr. Guiraldi uses a boatload of 9th chords all through the music, giving you a somber feel over a happy passage and vice versa (there are better ways to say this).

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ear-training-fun-give-it-a-try/804666/8 "2017-12-16T21:48:28Z")

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Got it right. 🙂
