# Eat it Hillary!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 4, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239 "2008-01-04T05:32:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/121 "2008-01-06T16:48:53Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
He was disbarred (IIRC) from practicing law in AK for some period of time, but that’s over.  
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Nitpick: that’s AR. AK is Alaska.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/122 "2008-01-06T22:16:16Z")

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Is there anywhere that I can find a video of said Obama speech?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/123 "2008-01-06T22:40:23Z")

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[QUOTE=DoctorJ]  
I’ve heard from several places that Virginia’s Mark Warner would almost certainly be Obama’s running mate. Seems like a good choice.  
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I thought Mark Warner was running for the Senate seat that John Warner is retiring from.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/124 "2008-01-06T23:01:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Red Barchetta]  
Is there anywhere that I can find a video of said Obama speech?  
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[Here ya go.](http://youtube.com/watch?v=yqoFwZUp5vc)

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/125 "2008-01-07T01:24:18Z")

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CNN is reporting that “suddenly” Obama has a double-digit lead over Hilary in NH, after a prior poll showed them neck-and-neck. I guess we’ll see.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/126 "2008-01-07T02:56:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Una Persson]  
CNN is reporting that “suddenly” Obama has a double-digit lead over Hilary in NH, after a prior poll showed them neck-and-neck. I guess we’ll see.  
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BBC is reporting that, too.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/127 "2008-01-07T03:27:17Z")

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[www.pollster.com](http://www.pollster.com) satisfies any electoral numerophile. The polls listed there are all over the place, indicating something big is about to blow. Clinton is between 7 points up and 12 points down if you believe any of them.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/128 "2008-01-07T03:51:24Z")

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> I thought Mark Warner was running for the Senate seat that John Warner is retiring from.

He is, and he’s thought to be such a runaway favorite that he could run for the Senate seat and for VP at the same time, the way Lieberman did back in 2000.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/129 "2008-01-07T03:59:16Z")

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[QUOTE=DoctorJ]  
He is, and he’s thought to be such a runaway favorite that he could run for the Senate seat and for VP at the same time, the way Lieberman did back in 2000.  
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God, tell me you’re joking and he hasn’t actually talked about this. I thought it was a really bad idea when Lieberman did it (leaving aside how bad an idea it was to have Lieberman as VP candidate in the first place) and it would be a really bad idea now.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/130 "2008-01-07T04:46:30Z")

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One would think that Hillary’s private polling would have shown long ago that she is just not liked or trusted by millions of people in both parties. Has she been drowning it out with la la las all this time?

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/131 "2008-01-07T05:29:45Z")

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> God, tell me you’re joking and he hasn’t actually talked about this.

No, AFAIK it’s all just speculation.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/132 "2008-01-07T05:43:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Boyo Jim]  
One would think that Hillary’s private polling would have shown long ago that she is just not liked or trusted by millions of people in both parties. Has she been drowning it out with la la las all this time?  
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The public polls show the exact opposite. Sure, there are quite a few that don’t care for Hillary, but there are many more that like and respect her.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/133 "2008-01-07T05:56:12Z")

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The latest USA Today/Gallup poll shows Barack at 41%, Hillary at 28%. Seems almost inevitable that Obama will take NH. Okay, now I think Hillary has something to worry about.

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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/134 "2008-01-07T15:03:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Onomatopoeia]  
The latest USA Today/Gallup poll shows Barack at 41%, Hillary at 28%. Seems almost inevitable that Obama will take NH. Okay, now I think Hillary has something to worry about.  
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I just saw that poll and am damn glad about it. I won’t say inevitable, that’s the term they used for Mrs. Clinton, I will say I hope that Mr. Obama wins in NH, I think he will, and barring any Howard Dean moment, will go on to take the nod, and hopefully the WH.

You’re right though, Mrs. Clinton has to be very nervous.

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**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/135 "2008-01-07T15:21:59Z")

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[QUOTE=buttonjockey308]  
I just saw that poll and am damn glad about it. I won’t say inevitable, that’s the term they used for Mrs. Clinton, I will say I hope that Mr. Obama wins in NH, I think he will, and barring any Howard Dean moment, will go on to take the nod, and hopefully the WH.

You’re right though, Mrs. Clinton has to be very nervous.  
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Nervous? Did you see her in the debate over the weekend? She nearly lost her head when Edwards was making a point. Not that I think all the news stations should have capitalized on that fact, but they all did. Even fox news focused on it. Plain and simple Hillary has a temper, and she damn near lost it on national tv.  
Good.

I was in NH this weekend all I can say is GO BARACK!!!

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/136 "2008-01-08T10:04:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Phlosphr]  
Nervous? Did you see her in the debate over the weekend? She nearly lost her head when Edwards was making a point. Not that I think all the news stations should have capitalized on that fact, but they all did. Even fox news focused on it. Plain and simple Hillary has a temper, and she damn near lost it on national tv.  
Good.

I was in NH this weekend all I can say is GO BARACK!!!  
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Is there a video of that?

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/137 "2008-01-08T13:02:32Z")

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Well, it’s over now. . .after that Muskie Moment.

I prefer Obama, but I like Hillary, not any less after yesterday, I’ll add.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/138 "2008-01-08T13:47:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Maus Magill]  
I still think Richardson is the best man for the job, but Obama is a fantastic orator. I really think Clinton is too divisive and would not be good for the country.  
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Count me as a Richardson fan too. Unfortunately, there’s almost no buzz around him; he needs some Ron Paul-like fanatics to attract some attention his way. Still, I’d be happy if Obama gets the nod.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/139 "2008-01-08T13:54:42Z")

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[QUOTE=elmwood]  
Count me as a Richardson fan too. Unfortunately, there’s almost no buzz around him; he needs some Ron Paul-like fanatics to attract some attention his way. Still, I’d be happy if Obama gets the nod.  
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Richardson has one major thing going against him. I’m supporting him. Let’s look at my track record:

1984: Hart  
1988: Gore  
1992: Tsongas  
2000: Gore (I got one!)  
2004: Clark

Obviously, I’m not the person you want backing you in the primaries.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-it-hillary/432239/140 "2008-01-09T02:16:52Z")

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BBC is reporting a probable Hillary win in New Hampshire.

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