# Eat my shit George W. Bush **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 19, 2005, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237 "2005-12-19T02:07:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/61 "2005-12-19T06:12:34Z")
> [@John Carter of Mars](#): > > My guess is that the lefties on this board never played competitive sports. When you’re on a sports team, you learn to lose, dislike it, but move on with your life. These whiners are gonna keep going until at least the 2008 elections. On behalf of the American people, I apologize. An election and a war and the general welfare of the US are just a _little_ more important that a game. Besides which, Bush is still doing damage _right now_; once a game is over, it’s over. Bad analogy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/62 "2005-12-19T06:37:08Z")
> [@Der Trihs](#): > > … once a game is over, it’s over. Bad analogy. And once an election is over, it’s over. The analogy works for me. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/63 "2005-12-19T07:07:44Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > My point is really a simple one. I, and most Liberals I would suspect, do get that we lost. Hell, the loyal opposition has let no opportunity to grind that in our face pass. Really, all that I am saying is that this wasn’t a landslide and that if we all have a sincere desire to form a more perfect union, well I think that the time may be coming that it would be a good idea for you folks to listen to what we have to say and to give it honest and open minded consideration. Why is that so difficult? Because it’s nonsensical and also a recipe for future losses. Instead of realizing that they are too far left and working to move to the center, IME most liberals are stamping their foot and shrieking “No! I’m right and you better listen to me!” Yes, GWB’s victory in '04 was a slim one, but I think the grave mistake the left is making is assuming that all those people who held their nose and voted for Kerry (like me) are endorsing their position, rather than recognizing that many of them were simply voting AGAINST Bush, not FOR the left’s agenda. I keep waiting for someone on the left to put forth a coherent plan on what they want to do, but all I hear is more of the same “I’m not Bush” crap and revisionalist history over the war advanced only for partisan political purposes. I never thought I could be more disgusted with a political party than I was at the Republican party with their odious impeachment of Clinton, but the Dems are acting worse now. Frankly, if the election were held again today, this time I would probably vote for Bush. At least he’s consistent. As for the speech, I thought it was quite good. Short, to the point, and accurate. Plus, Family guy was delayed, not preempted, so I still got to see that in it’s entirety. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/64 "2005-12-19T09:09:05Z")
> [@John Carter of Mars](#): > > And once an election is over, it’s over. The analogy works for me. No it’s not. First, quite a few people don’t believe the results, and second Bush is still there. > [@Weirddave](#): > > Instead of realizing that they are too far left and working to move to the center, IME most liberals are stamping their foot and shrieking "No! I’m right and you better listen to me! It worked for the right. Besides, what’s the point of moving even farther to the right; that’s just another way of losing. > [@Weirddave](#): > > At least he’s consistent. Being consistently _bad_ is not a virtue. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/65 "2005-12-19T10:55:55Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Just shy of winning the presidency, as it turns out. Just shy, my foot! The only thing that put Chimpy Bushler back in the White House was election fraud in Ohio. ---
**Author:** ![initech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/439d5e/32.png) [@initech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/initech)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/66 "2005-12-19T12:40:47Z")
> [@John Carter of Mars](#): > > And once an election is over, it’s over. The analogy works for me. Worked for Gray Davis, too. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/67 "2005-12-19T12:48:49Z")
> [@John Carter of Mars](#): > > My guess is that the lefties on this board never played competitive sports. When you’re on a sports team, you learn to lose, dislike it, but move on with your life. These whiners are gonna keep going until at least the 2008 elections. On behalf of the American people, I apologize. And my guess is you are a little cunt who is still trying to perpetuate the bullshit proposition that people on the left side of the political spectrum are weaklings. Fuck you, you stupid pussy. I’m quite confident that the prevalence of people identifying on the left side of the spectrum who have played in competitive sports is at least equal that of the right, and is even greater if you discount polo and shuffleboard. As for the whining of the right - they’ve made fucking careers out of it, getting millions of dittoheads to tune in with regularity to know just what the next thing they should be whining about really is. Pussy. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/68 "2005-12-19T13:09:29Z")
A president who truly serves our national interest would have pre-empted that stupid sitcom that’s hammocked between the Simpsons & Family Guy instead. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/69 "2005-12-19T13:39:42Z")
> [@Slithy Tove](#): > > A president who truly serves our national interest would have pre-empted that stupid sitcom that’s hammocked between the Simpsons & Family Guy instead. Wow, extremely good point. That show is amazingly bad. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/70 "2005-12-19T14:23:46Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Just shy, my foot! The only thing that put Chimpy Bushler back in the White House was election fraud in Ohio. Heh. All you need to do to convince me of this is to _prove_ that One Single Vote was fraudulently altered. What? No proof yet? Didn’t think so. Y’all remind me of the football fans of a certain university located on the _left_ side of my fair state. According to them, they never get whipped fair & square. Either the other team was lucky or the refs cheated 'em. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/71 "2005-12-19T14:37:05Z")
> [@Der Trihs](#): > > An election and a war and the general welfare of the US are just a _little_ more important that a game. But not more important than a cartoon, I take it? ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/72 "2005-12-19T14:37:42Z")
I have a question, why did they even broadcast it? I thought the networks had gotten sick of the president making prime time speaches where absolutely nothing new was said and it was just rehashing the same message. I seem to recall this happening a couple months ago where they were not going to broadcast one of these speaches, caved at the last minute becuase the white house said the message was going to be new and critical, and then in turned out to be just the same thing over again. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/73 "2005-12-19T14:45:03Z")
> [@John Carter of Mars](#): > > Heh. All you need to do to convince me of this is to _prove_ that One Single Vote was fraudulently altered. > What? No proof yet? Didn’t think so. > > Y’all remind me of the football fans of a certain university located on the _left_ side of my fair state. According to them, they never get whipped fair & square. Either the other team was lucky or the refs cheated 'em. 😃 I’m not quite familiar enough with Alabama geography to know which school that is. Can you enlighten me? As for Ohio, [feast yourself on the bounty](http://www.solarbus.org/election/articles/facts-ohio.pdf) Can you prove any of it in court? No, the crooks are far to clever to leave smoking guns. What you can do is show patterns of disenfranchisement and the differences between results in precincts with paper ballots and machine ballots, plus the statistical anomalies between the exit polls and the ballot counts. The probability of the exit polls being so consistently wrong in one direction is vanishingly small. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/74 "2005-12-19T14:50:01Z")
How often are we going to be subjected to these Bunkerside Chats? Until reality conforms to Bush’s insulated perceptions? [This sound familiar to ya?](http://faculty.smu.edu/dsimon/Change-Viet2.html) > [@](#): > > In November of 1967, the Administration launched an extensive “public relations” campaign. It was designed to convince Congress, the press, and the public that there was “progress” in Vietnam and that the war was being “won.” Johnson was advised to “[E]mphasize light at the end of the tunnel instead of battles, deaths, and danger.” “There are ways,” Johnson was told, “of guiding the press to show light at the end of the tunnel” (quoted in Larry Berman, Lyndon Johnson’s War, p. 98 and 99). To head this effort, Johnson brought General William Westmoreland, commander of American forces in Vietnam, to Washington. Westmoreland addressed the National Press Club saying that the U.S. had reached the point “where the end comes into view” (Berman, p.116). ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/75 "2005-12-19T14:50:21Z")
> [@flight](#): > > I have a question, why did they even broadcast it? I thought the networks had gotten sick of the president making prime time speaches where absolutely nothing new was said and it was just rehashing the same message. I seem to recall this happening a couple months ago where they were not going to broadcast one of these speaches, caved at the last minute becuase the white house said the message was going to be new and critical, and then in turned out to be just the same thing over again. Since when is it up to the networks to decide when the President can address the American people? ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/76 "2005-12-19T14:57:19Z")
> [@Mr Bus Guy](#): > > So we’re clear here…the football game wasn’t interrupted anywhere? > > This is all about Family Guy? Family Guy wasn’t even interrupted. It was just delayed. As soon as the speech was over Family Guy started from the beginning and nothing was missed. People’s Tivo’s might not have picked it up, though. It’s funny that people have such huge objections to this when at the same time we regularly see dopers bemoaning the lack of political awareness of typical Americans. BTW, I thought the speach was good. Progress is being made, and it’s been a while since Bush has done a prime time speech like this that I can recall. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/77 "2005-12-19T14:59:12Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > Since when is it up to the networks to decide when the President can address the American people? Like, OmIgAwDZ!!!1111!!! When it gets in the way of vitally important Family Guy time!11!!! DuH!!!111 :rolleyes: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/78 "2005-12-19T15:05:34Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > As for Ohio, [feast yourself on the bounty](http://www.solarbus.org/election/articles/facts-ohio.pdf) Can you prove any of it in court? No, the crooks are far to clever to leave smoking guns. Translation: “I can’t accept the results, so I’m going to believe, without any evidence, that the other guys cheated, because otherwise I would have to accept that I was WRONG and that Senator Kerry LOST.” In other words, Bob would rather embrace a comfortable delusion rather than accept an unpleasant reality. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > What you can do is show patterns of disenfranchisement and the differences between results in precincts with paper ballots and machine ballots, plus the statistical anomalies between the exit polls and the ballot counts. The probability of the exit polls being so consistently wrong in one direction is vanishingly small. I can “prove” that numerical codes found in the Bible accurately predict the rise of Hitler, the 9/11 attacks and the presidency of John F. Kennedy. That doesn’t mean you aren’t a fool if you believe it. Next time try to work some black hellicopters into the theory. It’s important to respect tradition. ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/79 "2005-12-19T15:07:51Z")
I just wanted to point out that the swaggering, chest-thumping “We won, you’re losers” and “You’re a bunch of unathletic pussies” isn’t really inspiring my open mind to vote for your guy next time. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2005, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237/80 "2005-12-19T15:13:53Z")
And saying “Eat my shit, GWB, and don’t you ever interrupt my television programming again” is supposed to get me to vote Democratic? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-my-shit-george-w-bush/336237.md?page=5)