# Eat shit Old Navy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 12, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165 "2016-06-12T01:03:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/21 "2016-06-12T03:04:38Z")
I gave my mother a father’s day card once, so this probably all my fault. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/22 "2016-06-12T03:20:04Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Does this link work? [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:67eKRk1LF8QJ:www.oldnavy.ca/products/mens-varsity-shirts.jsp+&cd=25&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us](http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:67eKRk1LF8QJ:www.oldnavy.ca/products/mens-varsity-shirts.jsp+&cd=25&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us) > > I did an image search and found lots of Old Navy links with that shirt but that shirt is now gone from the pages. Then I clicked a cached version and it was still there. > > Seems legit, but Old Navy has always been dumb anyway. Yes, 5th row down, 2nd from the left. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/23 "2016-06-12T03:40:34Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > Yes, 5th row down, 2nd from the left. I see it there too, although that is a cache of the _Canadian_ Old Navy site. I point this out because this shirt makes no sense to me, so I’m wondering if it’s less puzzling to Canadians. I’ll admit this doesn’t seem very likely, but I’m stumped as to what Old Navy’s designers even thought this shirt was supposed to mean. If it was intended to be a tribute to mothers then it doesn’t do so effectively, and if it was intended to be humorous then I’m not getting the joke. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/24 "2016-06-12T04:04:18Z")
On the Canadian site, there’s a Father’s Day shirt that says “Sorry I knocked you up, hon”… ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/25 "2016-06-12T05:08:21Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Seems legit, but Old Navy has always been dumb anyway. If the OP is any guide, so are the people who shop there. > [@Grrr](#): > > Speaking as a father, I’ve never taken the day too seriously, but I do take exception to the notion that fathers don’t offer anything of significance to the raising of their children. I don’t think i have ever heard a single person make such a suggestion. If the people you know say stuff like this, you should seek out better people. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/26 "2016-06-12T05:13:26Z")
It also splits the word as “Fat Her’s”… ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/27 "2016-06-12T05:20:06Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > If the OP is any guide, so are the people who shop there. > I don’t think i have ever heard a single person make such a suggestion. If the people you know say stuff like this, you should seek out better people. Really? I agree you should find better friends but it seems pretty common that if you suggest a single mom is less than a couple, you’re a misogynist scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/28 "2016-06-12T07:10:03Z")
So yeah, you assume it’s about the wife. If you instead assume it’s about the _daughter_, the shirt is actually super touching. ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/29 "2016-06-12T08:28:12Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > That time of the year again Father’s day, and for the past couple years without fail there’s always some retailer, company etc… just likes to shit on the role that Father’s play, and push the idea that fathers are unnecessary or that women are the sole parent, and the men just babysit. > > This year it’s Old Navy ! > > They’re selling these lovely [It’s Her Day](http://www.redstate.com/uploads/2016/06/old-navy-fathers-day-t-shirt.jpg) t-shirts this year. > > Bravo Old Navy, I use to go into your shitty store once and awhile and peruse through the god awful shirts in the men section, which is about 25% of your floor space btw and laugh at the ridiculous designs, ugly logos, patches and stripes plastered all over the shirts, dress shirts. Joking to my SO, I’d always use to comment why do they think men want to wear this crap and turn into walking billboards. Their pants, and jeans were usually pretty good and well priced which I use to buy from time to time. > > But I’ll no longer be spending money there. Go fuck yourself Old Navy. > > [Story](http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/06/10/old-navy-insults-fathers-making-fathers-day-women/) They sold a shirt that caters to the market it dedicates 75% of their floor space to? The bastards. ---
**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/30 "2016-06-12T08:41:19Z")
Ideal gift for Caitlyn Jenner though. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/31 "2016-06-12T10:29:24Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > Of course not, but I choose not to enact the labour of explaining why it’s offensive to me with someone who’s telling me I shouldn’t be offended. And yet… ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/32 "2016-06-12T14:22:36Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > I’m not so much insulted or upset as I am just baffled at who would buy a shirt that’s good one day a year and meekly gives credit to… your wife? Mother? Yep. My reaction to seeing such a shirt would be “Huh? What? Why? Who? How? What does that even mean?” > [@Lamia](#): > > I’m not seeing any such shirt, or any Father’s Day themed shirts at all, on the Old Navy website. I did not click the link in the OP (I try to avoid clicking links for sites I’m not familiar with), but if it includes a link to the shirt on the Old Navy site could someone repost it? The OP’s “Story” link includes the following: > [@](#): > > Old Navy has taken it down since, and we’re now greeted with this page upon attempting to access it in the store. with a screenshot saying “We are currently experiencing technical difficulties.” ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/33 "2016-06-12T14:41:36Z")
> [@Reyemile](#): > > So yeah, you assume it’s about the wife. > > If you instead assume it’s about the _daughter_, the shirt is actually super touching. It did occur to me that if this shirt was targeted at the proud papas of little girls then it would some kind of sense and be pretty sweet, but just seeing the shirt on its own I wouldn’t get that this was the intent. (If it was.) Really what this reminds me of is those Japanese t-shirt that have inexplicable English phrases on them. ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/34 "2016-06-13T12:52:29Z")
> [@Reyemile](#): > > If you instead assume it’s about the _daughter_, the shirt is actually super touching. > [@Lamia](#): > > It did occur to me that if this shirt was targeted at the proud papas of little girls then it would some kind of sense and be pretty sweet [snip] Just to add a data point, I interpret the shirt only in the proud daddy/young daughter way and had trouble getting my head around any other interpretation. Enjoy the imaginary tea party with the stuffed animals and the trip to the zoo, dad, 'cause it’s all for you on your special day! ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/35 "2016-06-13T13:35:26Z")
> [@Borborygmi](#): > > Just to add a data point, I interpret the shirt only in the proud daddy/young daughter way and had trouble getting my head around any other interpretation. The context of the column in the OP is that it’s a wife/mother thing but I could see the other perception. None of the other “humor” t-shirts seem to be going for sentimental so I’m inclined to think it was more of a swing & miss at humor than “Awwww…” but there’s a limit as to how long I’ll spend psychoanalyzing Old Navy shirts and I’ve reached it. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/36 "2016-06-13T14:39:07Z")
As a daughter who cherished her father and took father’s day quite seriously, I am offended at any sentiment that hints that fathers are nonessential. But what I get from this stupid shirt is more a silly play on the old “henpecked husband” trope. As if it’s saying " the ol’ battleax even co-opted _my_ day!" It’s a fail, whatever it’s true intent is. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/37 "2016-06-13T16:52:46Z")
> [@Borborygmi](#): > > Just to add a data point, I interpret the shirt only in the proud daddy/young daughter way and had trouble getting my head around any other interpretation. If that is what it is supposed to mean then where is the, “ **IT’S** FAT **HIS** ’S **DAY** ” shirt? First they point out the day should not actually be about the father but be about the daughter AND they make a point to say, by not having above said shirt, that it is also not about the son. Once again Feminist society is trying to push their agenda that only females matter and males are stupid and dumb and pointless. Good job America. Are you proud of yourself? ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/38 "2016-06-13T17:04:17Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Fathers Day, Mothers Day, Valentine’s Day … These aren’t real holidays. They’re just made up nonsense to trick you into buying useless shit. Why get worked up over this? Father’s Day and Mother’s Day are modern inventions. The old liturgical feast day of Mothering Sunday had nothing to do with mothers but was simply a day on which people visited their ‘mother’ churches. St Valentine’s Day is a genuine feast day in the tradition of the Western Church and goes way back, celebrating the early martyr Bishop Valentinus. By the 14th century it had become associated with love. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/39 "2016-06-13T17:27:47Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Really? I agree you should find better friends but it seems pretty common that if you suggest a single mom is less than a couple, you’re a misogynist scumbag. As with so many things, the devil is in the details. I think most people would agree that, all other things being equal, two loving and caring parents are probably better than one. The problem, in my experience, is that many people who “suggest a single mom is less than a couple” do so in ways that suggest being a single mom, in and of itself, is some sort of moral or ethical failing, and that it is inevitably doomed to result in bad children. Also, the person i was responding to wasn’t simply talking about the idea that “a single mom is less than a couple”; he suggested that some people believe that “fathers don’t offer anything of significance to the raising of their children.” As i said, i’ve never heard a single person say such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eat-shit-old-navy/757165/40 "2016-06-13T18:12:47Z")
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