# Eating lots of diet jelly on a semi-paleo diet **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 30, 2016, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647 "2016-01-30T10:41:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/1 "2016-01-30T10:41:24Z")
Hi recently I became interested in the Paleo diet which I think means no grains, legumes, refined sugar, processed foods, etc. (and apparently also no dairy products and minimal fruits and starchy carbs) It is very low in carbs. I had been eating some foods that were about 50-70% carbs. Lately I’ve been having a lot of diet jelly since it has about 0.2% carbs (but 1% protein - after the water is added that is). Until right this minute I had assumed that since it seemed to only have artificial sweeteners (953, 955, 950) it had next to no calories - similar to the diet lemonade and Coke Zero I have. Also it said 1g of protein per 100g and I thought that was based on the jelly crystal weight… It says it has 29 kJ or 7 calories per serve. But now I’ve seen that one sachet is considered to be 4 serves! That’s still pretty low in calories though. There are about 10 flavours of the 16 available at my supermarket… [http://aeroplanejelly.com.au/Our-Products/Jelly-Lite/Lite-Raspberry-and-Licorice](http://aeroplanejelly.com.au/Our-Products/Jelly-Lite/Lite-Raspberry-and-Licorice) I linked to the raspberry and licorice with green tea flavour which I’m looking forward to. (I only discovered that lately). I’ve lost about 3 kg in the last few days. (I was 80 kg though I’m quite skinny except for a fairly big belly and some man boobs - what they call “skinny fat”) I think it has a lot to do with the jelly I’ve been eating but also due to me eating lots of celery, eggs, bacon and fish. (plus normal foods for dinner which my housemate cooks - meat and veggies) I also eat a original recipe leg from KFC for lunch when I work - I used to have a “hot n spicy” one but then I noticed it had more carbs and calories. I’ve stopped having frozen drinks even though they’ve $1 and I used to eat burgers for lunch. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/2 "2016-01-30T11:41:52Z")
“very low in carbs” isn’t paelo, it’s Atkins. Why restrict fruit? How is “diet jelly” not a processed food? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/3 "2016-01-30T12:13:36Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > I’ve lost about 3 kg in the last few days. It’s easy to lose some weight at first - the trick is to keep it up for a year (and beyond.) The few proven diets all include: - planning what to eat - an occasional treat (to avoiding binges and relapses) - taking some healthy exercise ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/4 "2016-01-30T13:10:58Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > “very low in carbs” isn’t paelo, it’s Atkins. > > Why restrict fruit? > > How is “diet jelly” not a processed food? Paleo, Atkins and ketogenic keep getting blurrier and blurrier in the mainstream hivemind, don’t they? Fruit is often restricted in Paleo because modern fruit is bred to be huge and full of sugar, unlike “real” fruit that was tiny, fibrous, not terribly sweet, and difficult to obtain in great quantity year round. It’s to be consumed only in moderation in Atkins and ketogenic diets, and many people would rather “spend” their meager carbohydrate rations on a plate full of vegetables than a single piece of fruit. “Diet jelly” is totally violating the spirit of Paleo, but it’s fine for Atkins and keto. In fact, it’s often suggested in keto circles when you hit a weight loss plateau to add some diet jello/jelly to your day, in the belief that the extra glycine will get things moving again. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/5 "2016-01-30T14:28:32Z")
Ahhhhh, “jelly” = “jello”. I was so confused. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/6 "2016-01-31T00:39:51Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > “very low in carbs” isn’t paelo, it’s Atkins. Well my semi-paleo diet involves avoiding too many carbs such as chia seeds which are about 40% carbs. It basically means more restrictions than the typical paleo diet - except for things like diet jelly. > [@](#): > > Why restrict fruit? > **[The Ultimate Paleo Diet Food List | Ultimate Paleo Guide](https://ultimatepaleoguide.com/paleo-diet-food-list/)** > > This is the ultimate paleo diet food list. Available in both web & pdf format, check out the food list and recipes you'll need on your paleo diet journey. “…fruits (even paleo-approved ones) contain large amounts of fructose which, while much better than HFCS (high-fructose corn syrup), is still sugar. If you’re looking to lose weight on the paleo diet, you’ll want to cut back on your fruit intake and focus more on the vegetables allowed on the paleo diet. However, feel free to have one to three servings of fruit a day…” “Fruit juices are super high in sugar (fructose) and will throw your paleo diet off track. Stay away from these.” > [@](#): > > How is “diet jelly” not a processed food? Yeah that site also says: “Bad news – sweeteners aren’t paleo, sweetie”. It says stevia is ok though. I bought a packet of stevia tablets - each one is equivalent to a teaspoon of sugar. My health-conscious sister said I could make my own jelly… so I might get some gelatine and stevia… though on the other hand I don’t think the health problems with artificial sweeteners are that bad compared to sugar. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/7 "2016-01-31T00:45:34Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Ahhhhh, “jelly” = “jello”. > > I was so confused. Yeah, me, too. I was visualizing Smucker’s sugar- free. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/8 "2016-01-31T01:34:40Z")
I guess the question comes down to, do you want to eat like our ancient ancestors did, or do you want to eat something that’s as good for you as what our ancient ancestors did? ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/9 "2016-01-31T02:06:04Z")
> **[A Paleo Guide To Liver](https://paleoleap.com/paleo-guide-to-liver/)** > > The many health benefits of liver consumption as well as the best recipes and some tricks to deal with the strong taste. > [@](#): > > If Paleo were a comic book movie, liver would be the superhero. It’s the closest we can get to an all-natural, completely unprocessed multivitamin pill, wrapped in a delicious (really!) and inexpensive package. The smallest amount of lamb’s liver I could buy was 500g. The butcher said I can fry it with onions. I was able to eat about 100g until I felt disgusted by it and I threw the rest away. I tried eating it with other foods to get over the taste. Since it is cheap I might buy some more in the future and also eat part of it. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/10 "2016-01-31T03:18:31Z")
Chinese cuisine knows how to do liver. I was forced to eat liver and canned spinach and other abominations as a kid in bumfuck Idaho and California. Later, as an adult, I went to China and learned that a lot of the food abominations was just crappy cooking style. That said, 100g is more than a quarter pound of liver. That might be a tad much. Fois gras is liver, as well as food of the gods, but a 100g straight fois gras might be too much as well (but I would force myself to find out). ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/11 "2016-01-31T04:04:08Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > … > That said, 100g is more than a quarter pound of liver. That might be a tad much. It’s just under a quarter pound. A quarter pound is 113 g. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/12 "2016-02-01T13:25:05Z")
Turkey liver is a bit milder than beef, lamb, etc IME. My gf makes a turkey liver stroganoff that is amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/13 "2016-02-01T15:00:44Z")
I dunno, I’ve always liked the flavor of liver. Though it certainly tastes very different from muscle meat, and I suppose that tastes vary. Of course, I can’t eat it any more for health reasons, so what I think about it doesn’t much matter any more. ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/14 "2016-02-01T16:22:04Z")
I suspect a taste for any animal product has to be cultivated in childhood, or it’ll be come across with a lot of difficulty in adulthood. When my husband and I were younger we got into all the smallholding, hoof-to-snout-eating television and books and stuff. Then we tried to eat liver. Made us queasy. The minds were willing, but the flesh was weak. Happily I have been diagnosed with the same health condition (I think), so I don’t have to pretend to like it anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/15 "2016-02-02T02:11:06Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I guess the question comes down to, do you want to eat like our ancient ancestors did, or do you want to eat something that’s as good for you as what our ancient ancestors did? And what was the life expectancy of our ancient ancestors? 25-30? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/16 "2016-02-02T09:43:36Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > And what was the life expectancy of our ancient ancestors? 25-30? 😃 But paleo people didn’t have obesity… or did they…? > **[Venus of Willendorf](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf)** > > The Venus of Willendorf is an 11.1-centimetre-tall (4.4 in) Venus figurine estimated to have been made around 29,500 years ago. It was recovered on 7 August 1908 from an archaeological dig conducted by Josef Szombathy, Hugo Obermaier, and Josef Bayer at a Paleolithic site near Willendorf, a village in Lower Austria. The figurine was found by a workman named either Johann Veran or Josef Veram and is carved from an oolitic limestone that is not local to the area, and tinted wi The figure is associ... ---
**Author:** ![Elemenopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@Elemenopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elemenopy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/17 "2016-02-03T01:01:06Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Turkey liver is a bit milder than beef, lamb, etc IME. My gf makes a turkey liver stroganoff that is amazing. Weird. I had a turkey liver pate from a restaurant that specialized in turkey, a few years back, and it was the most livery (lol) thing I ever tasted. I couldn’t eat more than a bite. Yet I love foie gras, and country pate with pork (a la Roland brand). ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/18 "2016-02-03T12:05:04Z")
Huh. Weird indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/19 "2016-02-03T17:46:22Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > But paleo people didn’t have obesity… or did they…? > [Venus of Willendorf - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf) Paleo people probably spent a lot of time running away from packs of wolves and such. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eating-lots-of-diet-jelly-on-a-semi-paleo-diet/744647/20 "2016-02-03T17:57:07Z")
So then, do Aussies do jelly shots?