# Eclipse!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 28, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790 "2010-06-28T14:57:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/21 "2010-07-02T00:44:49Z")

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> [@ProudlyDefiant](#):
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> Nope. Edward is a 100 year old virgin, according to the books.

Lawl.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/22 "2010-07-02T01:19:43Z")

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> [@Necros](#):
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> ETA: To the disparagers of Twilight: I’m not sure that a board where Buffy, Lord of the Rings and Firefly are idolized is a great place to cast stones about crappy writing and movies…

Hmmm, one of these things is not like the others…

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/23 "2010-07-02T01:24:55Z")

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> [@ProudlyDefiant](#):
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> Nope. Edward is a 100 year old virgin, according to the books.

Yikes! If that’s the case, Bella is going to find herself impaled by an icy wax dart.

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**Author:** ![SlickRoenick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SlickRoenick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlickRoenick)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/24 "2010-07-02T03:28:44Z")

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28 y/o male checking in. Hopefully i can see it this weekend during a matinee without too many tweens fawning for their Team. And i liked the first two; didn’t see either in theatres.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/25 "2010-07-02T03:50:31Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Yikes! If that’s the case, Bella is going to find herself impaled by an icy wax dart.

I believe he actually ends up giving her a night of ecstasy. . . where he is sooo over come with the urge to eat her (maybe his giant marble peen caused her sweet virginal hymen to bleed), that he ended up ripping up a pillow by biting into it. Turns out Bella wakes in the morning, amidst feathers and covered in bruises.

I can’t wait to see how they handle that shit haha.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/26 "2010-07-02T04:15:13Z")

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Pillow biting, eh? Why am I not surprised.

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/27 "2010-07-02T04:23:38Z")

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I have had the chance to observe the huge crowds at several theaters this week, and I have to ask…why are people bringing beach towels and blankets with them?

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/28 "2010-07-02T05:11:45Z")

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I just got back, and I thought it was great! It’s the kind of movie where you’re just waiting for Jacob to take his shirt off (and he was naked at the end!! Woohoo!!), and I thought that they threw just a touch of camp into it, which was just right.

My only complaint is that it had so much “action!” and not enough dialogue and (further) character development. You could tell, from the one-liners and other dialogue points, that they had good scriptwriters. I would rather have had a little more insight on Bella/Edward/Jacob than shots of vampires breaking into ice cubes.

Overall, I say they delivered. And I feel like a dirty old woman, but Taylor Lautner is extraordinarily attractive. I just hope he’s not gay…

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**Author:** ![Necros](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/necros/32/11086_2.png) [@Necros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necros)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/29 "2010-07-02T15:13:21Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Hmmm, one of these things is not like the others…

One of them is not written by Joss Whedon? 😃 Regardless, in the grand scheme of things, none of these are really great, lasting pieces of culture. My point is that whatever random subculture someone is interested in, there is someone else who wants to disparage it. So, be careful where you cast your criticism. SDMB is not exactly the bastion of highbrow culture appreciation.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/30 "2010-07-02T15:48:41Z")

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Getting a bit defensive, aren’t you? This thread isn’t even that disparaging, but it almost seems like you’re trying to turn it into a trainwreck.

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**Author:** ![SevenOfTeemingMillions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@SevenOfTeemingMillions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SevenOfTeemingMillions)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/31 "2010-07-02T15:58:36Z")

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I love vampire and werewolf movies but the Twilight series is more of a teen romance movie than the type of vampire/werewolf movies I love to watch. I saw the first movie (I didn’t know at the time that it would be primarily romance) but skipped the second movie because teen romance movies do not interest me. But I disagree with those who consider these movies crap. Just because I don’t like a movie does not automatically make it crap. 🙂

I am interested in the fight scene between vampires and werewolves so I’ll be watching that scene when the movie comes out on cable (or if the scene becomes available online).

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/32 "2010-07-02T16:08:06Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Getting a bit defensive, aren’t you? This thread isn’t even that disparaging, but it almost seems like you’re trying to turn it into a trainwreck.

Eh, I don’t see what you’re saying in that post at all. Fact is, someone came in and threadshit. You don’t see me rolling into a Firefly thread, screaming “NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!!!” and running out, arms flailing. That’d be rude and pretty dumb, since if I’m not a Firefly fan, Firefly threads are easily avoided. That’s all.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/33 "2010-07-02T16:22:02Z")

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I meant the string of posts in general, not the last one in particular.

For what it’s worth, I’ve never read the Twilight books, but have seen the first movie and thought it was dull, but not terrible, and I’ve noticed \*\*MacTech \*\*enough in these type of threads to know he was going to post about how Twilight’s the worst thing ever, unless it’s Rifftraxed, in which case, it’s awesome before I even read his post. It was threadshitting, yes, and he and people like him should just get over it, but even the initial posts by **Necros** ’ seemed like he was expecting or hoping for derision, and the last couple posts was an escalation.

I could very well be wrong, and don’t claim my interpretation is the literal truth, but it’s how I perceive it.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/34 "2010-07-02T16:30:04Z")

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I caught enough of the first movie on cable to note that the vampchick who was pitching during the baseball game was pretty hot, and the rest of it was just random flashes as I got distracted by other things. I gather pointless and unshakable obsession is fairly commonplace in this storyline, else there wouldn’t be any real plot.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/35 "2010-07-02T16:36:42Z")

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All of my dude friends want to bone down [Alice](http://c2.api.ning.com/files/HaS-jfXSZ0x3Nl7kJg-HkrNr84vIHGeQQylTo9IHvGQputI8jbrzUiEGUzyllmEE7hA0-de-NxLvBE8bXnK-LEA8BzqrHaYs/AliceCullen.jpg), so you’re not alone.

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**Author:** ![Necros](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/necros/32/11086_2.png) [@Necros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necros)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/36 "2010-07-02T17:03:18Z")

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Yeah, Ashley Greene is super-hot. For those who are interested in her more…lurid side…well, I will leave it as a Google exercise for the reader. 😉

I am definitely not defensive, especially about Twilight of all things (though I may be a 13-year-old girl at heart, I am not a fangirl), but I do confess to a little anticipatory eye-rolling at the SDMB-style threadshitting that was inevitable. After all, I have read Twilight threads here before.

**SevenOfTeemingMillions** , I didn’t notice it consciously, but when I read Roger Ebert’s review after seeing the film, he brought up something that bothered me: The scenes with the wolves especially seem to lack _weight_, which is disappointing from a movie that is fairly effects-driven. When a wolf pounces on a vampire, or vamps are punching each other, you expect a sense of earth-shattering force, and it just isn’t there, unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![SevenOfTeemingMillions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@SevenOfTeemingMillions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SevenOfTeemingMillions)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/37 "2010-07-02T17:31:51Z")

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> [@Necros](#):
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> **SevenOfTeemingMillions** , I didn’t notice it consciously, but when I read Roger Ebert’s review after seeing the film, he brought up something that bothered me: The scenes with the wolves especially seem to lack _weight_, which is disappointing from a movie that is fairly effects-driven. When a wolf pounces on a vampire, or vamps are punching each other, you expect a sense of earth-shattering force, and it just isn’t there, unfortunately.

Thanks for the info, **Necros**. Too bad, I was looking forward to that scene.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/38 "2010-07-02T17:35:46Z")

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Well, if accurate physics was critical, the baseball game would’ve been a bit more comical to watch. I’d have to do some math, but I’m pretty sure a 110lb woman hurling a 5 ounce baseball at ~200 mph would get Newton’s Third Law involved…

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/39 "2010-07-02T20:36:58Z")

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Saw it today with my Mom. Surprisingly good. The first two were _filmed_ well, but had some ridiculous premise and awkward dialogue - but you got the sense that the actors were at least trying to say the lines ironically. And Taylor played Jacob pretty well in all the movies. The third film was actually a decent film in terms of pacing and plotting and not painful dialogue. It wasn’t filmed quite as well, and there was a little bit less Jake action. But the soundtrack was solid, and it improved on pretty much everything the first film got wrong, and some of the remaining Cullens got backstories.

Here’s hoping the remaining book gets the R-rated movie it deserves.

I didn’t quite get:

What was up with the girl new vampire. They focused on her over the other newbies a bit, and then she gets asylum, but then the Volturi kill her anyway. I think I heard there was another book or story about her, but she seemed like kind of an afterthought here with no point. And it’s hard to imagine what her story would be about anyway since she’s a vampire for like two seconds.

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eclipse/544790/40 "2010-07-02T20:57:54Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Saw it today with my Mom. Surprisingly good. The first two were _filmed_ well, but had some ridiculous premise and awkward dialogue - but you got the sense that the actors were at least trying to say the lines ironically. And Taylor played Jacob pretty well in all the movies. The third film was actually a decent film in terms of pacing and plotting and not painful dialogue. It wasn’t filmed quite as well, and there was a little bit less Jake action. But the soundtrack was solid, and it improved on pretty much everything the first film got wrong, and some of the remaining Cullens got backstories.
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> Here’s hoping the remaining book gets the R-rated movie it deserves.
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> I didn’t quite get:
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> What was up with the girl new vampire. They focused on her over the other newbies a bit, and then she gets asylum, but then the Volturi kill her anyway. I think I heard there was another book or story about her, but she seemed like kind of an afterthought here with no point. And it’s hard to imagine what her story would be about anyway since she’s a vampire for like two seconds.

Re: your spoiler:

Apparently, there was a short novella about her and her adventures prior to The Big Fight. I never read it.

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