# Ed, at some point you'll need to quell the rebellion.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 27, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670 "2009-02-27T16:25:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/1 "2009-02-27T16:25:43Z")

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This has gone from mildly irritating, to amusing, to _surreal._

**Love Me Vol. 1** , apparently, is off the ledge. **Ambushed** is afraid that the end of Western Civilization is nigh.

**Mhendo** posted a melodramatic tear jerker and vows to post as usual, even if it leads to his (?) banning. Prior to that, **Mhendo** offered up a summary of his posting history, letting us know that he’s likely to call someone a chunt once every 5000 posts or so. With that torrid history of online abuse, I figure in about March of 2012 or so he won’t be _banned_, or even _warned_, but be told _“Mhendo, knock it off.”_ I believe \*\*DSYounfEsq \*\* (iirc) said it was the most sensible post of the thread, and while I agree with that assessment, they both appear to be oblivious to the fact that **Mhendo** ’s post could have been written by Ed.

Assuming **Mhendo** ’s telling the truth, **Mhendo** is exactly the type of poster that should be carrying on business as usual—exactly the type of poster that Ed and Dex have _gone out of their way_ to say won’t be affected by this simple, sensible, minor rule change.

\*\*RobuSensei \*\*, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc) , feeling neglected, opened a new thread in hopes of getting some attention. We’ve got some inane poll going around as if it’s anything but a “Me too” poll. (can you see A.C. Nielson subcontracting out a presidential poll to David Axlerod?)

Lost in all this juvenile madness is what Ed & Dex have actually said. (and it would appear that most haven’t read it but are moving along this petulant trail with a herd mentality.)

Enough is enough. The “we need a place to vent” theme was always a non-starter. Still Ed and Dex have _ **gone out of their way** _ to say that the spirit of The Pit----the ability to be insulting, to be raucous, to use profanity, and to flame will remain. \*Only the most juvenile, vile, witless and stupid abuse \*needs to stop.

And yet post after post has responded to this simple, minor rule change as akin to tearing up the First Amendment. This childish, petulant behavior is beyond the pale. It’s time to grow up.

Ed, make it 400 pesos: You’ve built a nice franchise. (but I suspect you’re having a hard time trying to figure out how to monetize it) It looks to me that you have tried to be considerate to your “customers”. (some of which haven’t cared enough to pony up 15 bucks before starting their crying)

But it’s clear to me that they will continue to piss and moan and cry and accuse and berate----not until you answer them (as you already have)-----but _ **until you give them the answer they want.** _

You’ve let them “vent.” (a euphemism for acting like spoiled children) At some point the discussion needs to be over and we need to get back to life. Make your decision(s). Lock the threads. Let’s go through the learning/transition process, including the inevitable sacrificial bannings.

On the other side of this, the miscreants will be gone, and the board will actually be more creative, more vibrant, more intelligent—and no less raucous, or funny.

Enough is enough with this melodramatic nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/2 "2009-02-27T16:34:40Z")

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Since this is an attack on other posters, complete with smarmy misrepresentation of their opinions and insulting references to other posters, shouldn’t this be in the Pit?

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/3 "2009-02-27T16:36:17Z")

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I didn’t think so, but if the mods feel that the content is better suited to The Pit, I’m fine with it being moved.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/4 "2009-02-27T16:38:15Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Since this is an attack on other posters, complete with smarmy misrepresentation of their opinions and insulting references to other posters, shouldn’t this be in the Pit?

And, I re read the OP and there is no “attack” on anyone. (nor a misrepresentation)

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/5 "2009-02-27T16:42:25Z")

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Since this is more a litany of complaints about other posters and less about the board itself, off to the Pit it goes.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/6 "2009-02-27T16:46:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> And yet post after post has responded to this simple, minor rule change as akin to tearing up the First Amendment. This childish, petulant behavior is beyond the pale. It’s time to grow up.
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> \<snip\>
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> Enough is enough with this melodramatic nonsense.

Your opinion was communicated just as clearly in the other thread.

Why did you feel you needed to start a whole new thread?

Why did you feel the need to disparage other posters? Right or wrong, are they not allowed to feel differently about something than you do?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/7 "2009-02-27T16:47:53Z")

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Really? I’d invite you, per Ed’s rule #7 (the “quotes” one) about linking to the specific behavior. Document where **Ambushed** said that the changes on the SDMB would cause civilization to collapse.

Where is **I Love Me** threatening suicide or making any similar threats?

You’ve called posters you disagree with “spoiled children”–certainly a pit-worthy phrase under the old or new rules.

How can you, one of the two most pro-“Clean up this message-board” posters possibly hope to gain credibility if you can’t follow the rules yourself? A

And for that matter, you’ve stated repeatedly you want a “more creative, more vibrant, more intelligent” board?

Can you link to any of your posts that make the board “more creative, more vibrant”? Lead by example, young padwan.

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/8 "2009-02-27T16:48:57Z")

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how on earth have you lasted this long on the SDMB if this type of behavior bothers your?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/9 "2009-02-27T16:51:37Z")

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Hey, we’re in the pit…well…the solar powered circle jerk or whatever the fuck this place is supposed to be.

**Raindog** , out of curiosity, would you mind telling us which mod’s hand is pulling the strings that make you talk?

Oh, and since **Gfactor** has previously ruled that this is not abusive: Screw You.

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**Author:** ![Greenback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greenback)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/10 "2009-02-27T16:52:58Z")

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Ever watch the smurfs? Remember when Brainy smurf raised one finger, closed his eyes, and started saying ‘Papa smurf always says…’ and then gets tossed?

did you think this thread was going to turn out any different **raindog**?

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/11 "2009-02-27T16:54:17Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> Your opinion was communicated just as clearly in the other thread.
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> Why did you feel you needed to start a whole new thread?
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> Why did you feel the need to disparage other posters? Right or wrong, are they not allowed to feel differently about something than you do?

The other thread is now approaching 1000 posts. When do you suppose it occurred to Ed that there was a large group of posters who were unhappy with the new rules? Do you remember any post that said, “Hey guys, we’ve said our peace. Let it go.”

Of course not. The torrent of posts continue, long, long ,long after the point has been made.

It looks to me that you object not so much to the frequency (or redundancy) of my posts (for if redundancy were the issue you’d be apoplectic by now), but the content.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/12 "2009-02-27T16:55:42Z")

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> [@5-HT](#):
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> how on earth have you lasted this long on the SDMB if this type of behavior bothers your?

47 years, 7 months, 1 day and 4 hours.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/13 "2009-02-27T16:56:56Z")

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> [@Greenback](#):
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> Ever watch the smurfs? Remember when Brainy smurf raised one finger, closed his eyes, and started saying ‘Papa smurf always says…’ and then gets tossed?
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> did you think this thread was going to turn out any different **raindog**?

No, I’ve never watched the smurfs, but I have no doubt it’s a staple of many Dopers DVD libraries.

Do you recommend it?

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/14 "2009-02-27T16:58:13Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Hey, we’re in the pit…well…the solar powered circle jerk or whatever the fuck this place is supposed to be.
> 
> **Raindog** , out of curiosity, would you mind telling us which mod’s hand is pulling the strings that make you talk?
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> Oh, and since **Gfactor** has previously ruled that this is not abusive: Screw You.

Permissible, but not quite the urbane, creative, witty stuff Ed was envisioning.

“A” for effort, though.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/15 "2009-02-27T17:02:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Do you remember any post that said, “Hey guys, we’ve said our peace. Let it go.”

Yes, off the top of my head, I do.

**Loach** had said as much, IIRC, although out of frustration, and not out of a change to a “let’s wait and see what happens” attitude.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/16 "2009-02-27T17:03:41Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> Yes, off the top of my head, I do.
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> **Loach** had said as much, IIRC, although out of frustration, and not out of a change to a “let’s wait and see what happens” attitude.

I stand corrected.

It didn’t seem to work in that case either, huh?

Just be glad there’s only one of me, or that thread would be 2000 posts long.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/17 "2009-02-27T17:09:32Z")

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Hey, **raindog** , has anyone ever told you that you’re a complete tool?

How about you bite me twice?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/18 "2009-02-27T17:10:46Z")

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What do you care, Sparky? You’re getting the Stepford Forum you’ve been pining for. When a thread annoys me, I stop reading it. A patented method, but… go ahead, you can use it.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/19 "2009-02-27T17:11:18Z")

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> [@raindog](#):
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> Permissible, but not quite the urbane, creative, witty stuff Ed was envisioning.
> 
> “A” for effort, though.

Where’s your creativity, asshole (allowed per Ed’s ruling)?

Lead by example, you scrofulous maggot. How about linking to some of the “urbane, creative, witty” posts you’ve made.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/20 "2009-02-27T17:12:36Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Hey, **raindog** , has anyone ever told you that you’re a complete tool?
> 
> How about you bite me twice?

No they haven’t. You’re my first.

Can I bite you once, and we’ll see how that goes?

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