# Ed, at some point you'll need to quell the rebellion. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670 "2009-02-27T16:25:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/61 "2009-02-27T18:07:26Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > And if i psot my rant in the youtube forums or anywhere else, how can I tell the other posters of the SDMB so they can read it?, do i post a link? would it be admissible?, wouldnt be better if we had a forum in the SDMB where the posters could see my rant and… oh yes we HAD one Admissible? This isn’t a court of law. TBH, I have no idea whether you’re allowed to link to an off-board forum. I don’t see why not. Anyway, why do you need to rant? You’re a grown-up (presumably). If you disagree with something somebody posted, just say so in the original thread and move on. Posting a rant about it is about as productive as yelling at your monitor. If you want to rant about the bitch who cut you off in traffic, or the deadbeat dad who isn’t paying your sister child support, or the guy who cut off his wife’s nipples in a drunken rage, you can still do those things. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/62 "2009-02-27T18:08:51Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > They can still do it. They can’t do it as much or as vociferously, and for the truly overwrought there are at least three off-board SDMB-related fora. The point is that they don’t have to walk somewhere else, or go home- they just have to click over to a new window. That’s a flipped mirror (?) argument about the complaints over the way the Pit was before. “Don’t like the strong language? Tough. Grow thicker skin, or go back to MSPIMS.” For a time, that flipped argument was what held sway, now it is changed. (Well… modified.) Is it the end of western civ? Of course not. Banning “offensive” rap music from the radio would not cause us to revert to the stone age (after all, you can still buy the album/CD’s), but you would agree, wouldn’t you, that there would be squaking? ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/63 "2009-02-27T18:08:51Z")
> [@raindog](#): > > Perhaps you missed the other **879** posts while scouring the thread for mine. > > Shut about it already, is right. Considering the fact that there’s over 230 posters to that thread, I’d say you stand out a bit, knobgoblin. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/64 "2009-02-27T18:13:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Admissible? This isn’t a court of law. > > TBH, I have no idea whether you’re allowed to link to an off-board forum. I don’t see why not. > > Anyway, why do you need to rant? You’re a grown-up (presumably). If you disagree with something somebody posted, just say so in the original thread and move on. Posting a rant about it is about as productive as yelling at your monitor. > > If you want to rant about the bitch who cut you off in traffic, or the deadbeat dad who isn’t paying your sister child support, or the guy who cut off his wife’s nipples in a drunken rage, you can still do those things. In fact I have never pitted anybody (until today), however, I feel the pit had a function in this board allowing things like Cervaise’s telemarketer rant, for example, a function that has been removed now. And for linking to another forums, should we then open pit threads with just a link to another forum where we can say what we really want without self-appointed “adults” telling us what we can say and what we cannot say?. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/65 "2009-02-27T18:14:50Z")
> [@raindog](#): > > It’s benign, afaik. Yes, but you’re a moron, so really, “as far as you know” really doesn’t cover much ground, does it? > [@](#): > > Do you really want us to believe that we took 1000 posts to ask if we could have some good will motivated clarification? > > C’mon Miller. You know better. This was a silly tactic to show up the new rule as unworkable. I agree that clarification is needed, but we have 1000 posts, the bulk of which are dramatic and many hysterical. No, I think it took 1000 posts (from over two hundred different posters, mind) to point out that the rule was impractical, poorly considered, and wholly unnecessary. The point isn’t that clarification isn’t necessary, the point is that clarification is impossible, because even **Ed** didn’t know what it was supposed to mean, as evidenced by his [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10883570&postcount=41) > [@](#): > > This wasn’t about clarification, as much as it was using whatever ambiguity to use as wedge to stop the new rule, as opposed to clarify/improve the new rule. > > Get real dude. How many of those posts were in agreement with the spirit or principle of the new rule and simply wanted it refined, as opposed to those who were insisting it be scrapped? Pretty much all of them. What’s your point? > [@](#): > > But I’ll throw you this: To any poster in the previous thread who was posting rationally and simply wanted clarification and supported the new rule and just wanted to help in it’s effective implementation, \***I apologize. \*\*\* > \*\* > All three of you.** Eat shit, you inbred slug. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/66 "2009-02-27T18:15:05Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > I didn’t scour anything, as I just told you. If you click on the number of posts, it tells you who posted how many times. Get it? Wow! I didn’t know about that feature! Cool beans! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/67 "2009-02-27T18:19:10Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Am I the only person who has been completely unaffected by the rules change? Outside of reading threads about the rules change of course. No. Hasn’t effected me in the slightest. I don’t usually read ATMB so I’ve even been oblivious to most of the hoo-hah. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/68 "2009-02-27T18:20:52Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Wow! I didn’t know about that feature! Cool beans! Me either! Has it always been like that? That’s really useful! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/69 "2009-02-27T18:23:00Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Is it the end of western civ? Of course not. Banning “offensive” rap music from the radio would not cause us to revert to the stone age (after all, you can still buy the album/CD’s), but you would agree, wouldn’t you, that there would be squaking? “Offensive” rap music _is_ banned from the radio- actually, it’s more strictly regulated than music in general, because although there is no FCC ruling or regulation prohibiting use of the word _nigger_ in radio broadcasts, stations censor it themselves. > [@Frodo](#): > > In fact I have never pitted anybody (until today), however, I feel the pit had a function in this board allowing things like Cervaise’s telemarketer rant, for example, a function that has been removed now. 😕 How has that function been removed? I don’t remember the rant in question, but unless Cervaise was pitting another poster who was also a telemarketer, nothing in the new rules says he can’t post it again. The new prohibition everyone is bitching about is #5- you can’t abuse _other posters_. You can still abuse celebrities, random people on the street, telemarketers, or just about anyone else you want. ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/70 "2009-02-27T18:24:19Z")
> [@raindog](#): > > I must run. I suspect I’m one of the few who will contribute to this thread who’s actually employed. I think you’re being a jerk in saying this. from the wiktionary: ```php (US, slang, pejorative) A person with unlikable or obnoxious qualities and behavior, typically mean, self-centered or disagreeable, and often not very intelligent. ``` Am I allowed to say this? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/71 "2009-02-27T18:25:27Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > How has that function been removed? I don’t remember the rant in question, but unless Cervaise was pitting another poster who was also a telemarketer, nothing in the new rules says he can’t post it again. Yes, he did post it about another poster who was also a telemarketer. That’s the whole beauty of the rant; someone was posting bullshit on the board and he ripped them a new one for it. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/72 "2009-02-27T18:27:22Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > “Offensive” rap music _is_ banned from the radio- actually, it’s more strictly regulated than music in general, because although there is no FCC ruling or regulation prohibiting use of the word _nigger_ in radio broadcasts, stations censor it themselves. Was/is there not “bitching” from the customer base? I seem to recall some folks claiming that the radio stations may have been acting in a “biased” way towards a different culture. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/73 "2009-02-27T18:29:41Z")
> [@](#): > > How has that function been removed? I don’t remember the rant in question, but unless Cervaise was pitting another poster who was also a telemarketer, nothing in the new rules says he can’t post it again. It WAS against another poster, and we can get anybody with authority to fucking tell us if would be permissile under the new rules. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/74 "2009-02-27T18:32:01Z")
**raindog:** > [@](#): > > This wasn’t about clarification, as much as it was using whatever ambiguity to use as wedge to stop the new rule, as opposed to clarify/improve the new rule. Don’t presume to tell me what my posts (among those of others) were and weren’t about, you ugly, mewling motherfucker. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/75 "2009-02-27T18:39:13Z")
**raindog** - (In response to Guin) > [@](#): > > No they haven’t. You’re my first. > > Can I bite you once, and we’ll see how that goes? (Apropos of nothing) > [@](#): > > I suspect I’m one of the few who will contribute to this thread who’s actually employed. (Responding to Giraffe) > [@](#): > > Perhaps you missed the other 879 posts while scouring the thread for mine. > > Shut about it already, is right. Take a moment from your busy work schedule, if you would, and re-read the above, and if you have a moment your own contributions to this thread and to the message board as a whole. You are smug, stupid, and a bad writer. Your posts over the last few days have been nothing but self-congratulatory gloating, peppered with what I’m sure you think are witty one-liners (“Can I bite you once, and we’ll see how that goes? HAW HAW HAW”) that are in reality on the approximate intellectual level of, say, fifth graders texting in Social Studies. You like the new rules because you believe they will elevate the tone and intelligence of the board, and yet every time you, yourself, post, you manage to - without notionally “childish” profanity - lower the posting standards here more than any “fuck” or “cunt” ever has. With every post, you make this place more juvenile, more pointlessly antagonistic, and more stupid. And this is why I object to this new policy: because it purports to raise the tone of the board by allowing a tool like you completely free rein to post nothing of interest in an uninteresting fashion, while putting restrictions on the people who have something to say and are capable of using the English language to good effect - the people who recognize the essential truth that no particular word or combination of words is inherently “classier,” “smarter,” or “more elevated” than any other. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/76 "2009-02-27T18:42:26Z")
> [@raindog](#): > > I must run. I suspect I’m one of the few who will contribute to this thread who’s actually employed. Oh man, now you were doing just fine until this gratuitous, arrogant and completely unnecessary jab. Being unemployed in today’s economy is not a mark of laziness or stupidity. I, for one, am unemployed because I retired after over 40 years of hard work, and don’t consider myself to be the lesser of the two of us. You were taking comments in good humor and then fell right on your kiester with this remark. ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/77 "2009-02-27T18:43:41Z")
**storyteller** , are you saying you don’t find this Pit thread to be a veritable Algonquin round table, destined to dispel everyone’s reservations about the new Pit rules and their ability to raise the tone around here? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/78 "2009-02-27T18:44:02Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > It WAS against another poster, and we can get anybody with authority to fucking tell us if would be permissile under the new rules. I just searched and actually found it. And… yeah, it’s really good. However, the offending poster should have been banned in about six seconds flat for being a troll, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/79 "2009-02-27T18:45:40Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I just searched and actually found it. > > And… yeah, it’s really good. However, the offending poster should have been banned in about six seconds flat for being a troll, anyway. And now, we can not have a good post like that, do you undertand now why we protest?. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670/80 "2009-02-27T18:48:28Z")
Raindog, this is the most juvenile, ass-licking, junior-modding, pussified post I’ve ever seen. Complete with a list of people you think the favor you’ve garnered will help you get banned. That’s the most dickish thing I’ve ever seen, and that’s coming from the guy who just said this: I wonder what your childhood was like to make you like this. I think I’ll ask your mom tonight while I’m wiping off my dick with her hair. (Note: I made every attempt to conform the abaove to the pit rules as I understand them.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-at-some-point-youll-need-to-quell-the-rebellion/487670.md?page=5)