# Ed Said

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-said/487762>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [February 28, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-said/487762 "2009-02-28T04:38:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-said/487762/1 "2009-02-28T04:38:09Z")

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_Whose motorcycle is this?_

**It’s a chopper baby.**

_Whose chopper is this?_

**It’s Ed’s.**

_Who’s Ed?_

**Ed Said, baby, Ed Said.** \*Sorry, I couldn’t resist[/I}

This is a brief collection of Ed Zotti’s responses to our questions. I’m not defending the man. I’ll go as far as saying that\*\* He’s lost the respect of most of the SDMB members and should step down.\*\* That said, the “He won’t answer us.” meme has reached a fever pitch. We’ve been told that a clarification on the Pit Rules will be forth coming, after the weekend. In the interest of Fighting Ignorance I offer a collection of what Ed has Said.

> **[Ed, one simple question about the new Pit Rules](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508540)**
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> Why did you feel the need to redefine the rules in order to stamp out the types of posts that you disapprove of? Why not simply enforce the “don’t be a jerk” rule more rigorously? Would it have been unworkable to simply ask the Mods to take a more...

> **[Of assholes and dicks](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508496)**
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> Ed Zotti posted the following a couple of hours ago in this thread: Emphasis mine. As a point of clarification: what is the principled distinction you are drawing between “asshole” (okay) and “dick” (not okay)? Thanks.

> **[Ed, please read this digest of reactions to New Pit Rule #2 that you've been...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508523)**
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> (Apologies for extreme length.) Dear Ed, Dead Badger said this elsewhere, and I think it’s true: Having read all now-19 pages of the Pit rules have been revised thread, especially this part: … I’ve compiled a Reader’s Digest for you of things...

> **[Would Cervaise's telemarketer rant be allowed in the pit?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508338)**
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> Having asked three times in this thread: Maybe I can it answered as its own thread.

> **[Ed, one simple question about the new Pit Rules](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508540)**
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> Why did you feel the need to redefine the rules in order to stamp out the types of posts that you disapprove of? Why not simply enforce the “don’t be a jerk” rule more rigorously? Would it have been unworkable to simply ask the Mods to take a more...

> **[Of assholes and dicks](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508496)**
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> Ed Zotti posted the following a couple of hours ago in this thread: Emphasis mine. As a point of clarification: what is the principled distinction you are drawing between “asshole” (okay) and “dick” (not okay)? Thanks.

> **[Why aren't you even TRYING to communicate with us?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508438)**
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> So we have a 19-page (at this writing) thread full of people with concerns and complaints about the new BBQ Pit rules. Administration response has been sparse and unhelpful (and in at least one instance, admittedly non-serious). With the lack of...

> **[Ed, please read this digest of reactions to New Pit Rule #2 that you've been...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508523)**
>
> (Apologies for extreme length.) Dear Ed, Dead Badger said this elsewhere, and I think it’s true: Having read all now-19 pages of the Pit rules have been revised thread, especially this part: … I’ve compiled a Reader’s Digest for you of things...

> **[Of assholes and dicks](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508496)**
>
> Ed Zotti posted the following a couple of hours ago in this thread: Emphasis mine. As a point of clarification: what is the principled distinction you are drawing between “asshole” (okay) and “dick” (not okay)? Thanks.

> **[Of assholes and dicks](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508496)**
>
> Ed Zotti posted the following a couple of hours ago in this thread: Emphasis mine. As a point of clarification: what is the principled distinction you are drawing between “asshole” (okay) and “dick” (not okay)? Thanks.

> **[Ed, please read this digest of reactions to New Pit Rule #2 that you've been...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508523)**
>
> (Apologies for extreme length.) Dear Ed, Dead Badger said this elsewhere, and I think it’s true: Having read all now-19 pages of the Pit rules have been revised thread, especially this part: … I’ve compiled a Reader’s Digest for you of things...

> **[Ed, please read this digest of reactions to New Pit Rule #2 that you've been...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508523)**
>
> (Apologies for extreme length.) Dear Ed, Dead Badger said this elsewhere, and I think it’s true: Having read all now-19 pages of the Pit rules have been revised thread, especially this part: … I’ve compiled a Reader’s Digest for you of things...

> **[Ed, please read this digest of reactions to New Pit Rule #2 that you've been...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508523)**
>
> (Apologies for extreme length.) Dear Ed, Dead Badger said this elsewhere, and I think it’s true: Having read all now-19 pages of the Pit rules have been revised thread, especially this part: … I’ve compiled a Reader’s Digest for you of things...

So, that’s the last few things he has said. Settle down, _ **relax** _, refine your arguments, stock up on ammunition; I don’t care. I wanted to Fight my own Ignorance on this and I thought I would share.It seems that there is room for consensus and, as the smoke clears we can, collectively, come to a place that we can live with (if not be happy about). I will, humbly, suggest that the tone of the pit since the Rule change is not very different and there has not been a blizzard of Warnings and Bannings. Please don’t kill me. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-said/487762/2 "2009-02-28T04:57:58Z")

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I’m standing down at this point. I’m not willing to stack arms just yet, but Ed is showing signs of coming around. At least he’s talking to us, and apparently listening. See the assholes and dicks thread.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-said/487762/3 "2009-02-28T05:23:21Z")

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I feel much better now that the lines of communication are open.

Q

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-said/487762/4 "2009-02-28T06:27:20Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> At least he’s talking to us, and apparently listening. See _the assholes and dicks thread_.

I just wanted to point out, that I love that all the redirects and links are going to that particularly named thread. It just makes it all a bit more surreal.  
If the Straight Dope ever creates a Magna Carta set of rules and hammers it out, is it going to from the Assholes and Dicks Thread. However shall we reference such a monumental and useful thread? The AaDT? It just makes me think of the monologue from _Team America_…

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**Author:** ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-said/487762/5 "2009-02-28T13:20:42Z")

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I appreciate the ironic humour of the Rules being hammered out in “The Assholes and Dicks Thread”.

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-said/487762/6 "2009-02-28T15:20:06Z")

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> [@bluecanary](#):
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> I appreciate the ironic humour of the Rules being hammered out in “The Assholes and Dicks Thread”.

Didja have to say “hammered” 😉

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-said/487762/7 "2009-02-28T17:35:12Z")

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\*\* chacoguy420\*\*–I think your approach lacks something.

And _that_, from the _least tactful person on the SDMB!_
