# Ed, WTF?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 23, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650 "2009-01-23T15:46:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/221 "2009-02-02T02:09:40Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Japanass is a slur on a nationality, not a race. To be a racial slur it would have to be Assian.
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> Assperanto is a slur on a recently invented language. Slurring Esperanto is like slurring Klingon.

Ah OK. Nevermind. I just saw this and realized that it probably applies here.

> [@Ed, could you review a ruling please?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-could-you-review-a-ruling-please/480891/39):
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> OK, after some discussion, I was clearly construing “hate speech” more broadly than we normally mean it in the Pit. While a racist diatribe would likely a earn a warning at minimum, we don’t have a problem with (say) disparaging remarks about the French. Accordingly I withdraw my mod note to **Rand Rover** on this point and extend my apologies.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/222 "2009-02-02T06:43:02Z")

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> [@Heffalump and Roo](#):
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> And those are not racial slurs, why?

1. Esperanto is an invented language without ties to any particular race or culture. Unless you count linguists as a race/culture, but that’s going a bit overboard, IMHO.
2. “Japanass” clearly refers to a language, not a race. Come on, now!
3. Lick my hairy nutsack, you crazy-ass bitch.

Hostile Dialect,  
Hostile Dialect, Narcissist

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/223 "2009-02-02T07:15:58Z")

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> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> 1. Lick my hairy nutsack, you crazy-ass bitch.

Why is this not a threat? It sure has an unpleasant metaphorical potential.

If it’s because it’s a joke from the Opal thread, why is it not an Opal taunt?

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/224 "2009-02-02T10:12:32Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> Why is this not a threat? It sure has an unpleasant metaphorical potential.
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> If it’s because it’s a joke from the Opal thread, why is it not an Opal taunt?

I love opal taunts. I remember once seeing a beautiful broach made with opal and emerald taunts. It was just gorgeous.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/225 "2009-02-02T21:04:24Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> Why is this not a threat? It sure has an unpleasant metaphorical potential.
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> If it’s because it’s a joke from the Opal thread, why is it not an Opal taunt?

Because only **3. Buckeyes** is an Opal taunt. It has been so ordained.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/226 "2009-02-03T07:46:05Z")

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> [@Heffalump and Roo](#):
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> Why is this not a threat? It sure has an unpleasant metaphorical potential.

You can’t be serious. Is this a whoosh?

Sorry, that can be misinterpreted as a threat. I didn’t mean that I would hire a bodybuilder to throw you over my head so you’d make a whooshing noise.

> [@Heffalump and Roo](#):
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> If it’s because it’s a joke from the Opal thread, why is it not an Opal taunt?

Assuming you’re serious about all this nonsense, it’s because you and **Opal** have a similar problem: you need to grow a thicker skin or the big bad Internets is just going to break you down.

If you can’t handle my comparatively mild insults, you should consider selling your computer and spending your newfound free time watching knitting shows on TV.

Hostile Dialect,  
hostile Dialect, Narcissist

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/227 "2009-02-03T07:58:10Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> And those are not racial slurs, why?

Because you touch yourself at night.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/228 "2009-02-03T08:38:18Z")

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> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> Sorry, that can be misinterpreted as a threat. I didn’t mean that I would hire a bodybuilder to throw you over my head so you’d make a whooshing noise.

But that would be pretty cool. How fast do you think you would have to be thrown to make that noise? Choice of clothing might make a difference too.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/229 "2009-02-03T09:09:08Z")

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After last time, Hans’s lawyer has asked me to refrain from discussing the specifics.

Hostile Dialect,  
Hostile Dialect, Narcissist

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/230 "2009-02-03T10:07:20Z")

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Will this thread never die?

10,000+ views on Colibri getting spanked and still it goes on and on…

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/231 "2009-02-03T10:44:15Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> Will this thread never die?
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> 10,000+ views on Colibri getting spanked and still it goes on and on…

I think the mods have just abandoned the Pit altogether and they’re off somewhere laughing because they think we haven’t caught on. We can say and do anything because they don’t care.

So let me be the first to say the moderators were cowards and deserve to have a shoe thrown at them. If only they had the guts to show up. Which they don’t.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/232 "2009-02-03T11:59:06Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> I think the mods have just abandoned the Pit altogether and they’re off somewhere laughing because they think we haven’t caught on. We can say and do anything because they don’t care.
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> So let me be the first to say the moderators were cowards and deserve to have a shoe thrown at them. If only they had the guts to show up. Which they don’t.

Honestly, I’m a bit confused. The Pit mods are generally good folks – hell, Giraffe is one of the few mods with a pretty wicked sense of humour – so perhaps they too see that Colibri is a giant pussy who got his ass handed to him and they don’t want to side with such a nutcase (“knife fight”, indeed). Or maybe they’re just sitting on the sidelines waiting for this to run its course.

In any event, I am surprised that Ed hasn’t come back to close this all down.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/233 "2009-02-03T12:16:05Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> In any event, I am surprised that Ed hasn’t come back to close this all down.

You know, just because he is being all chickenshit about it, doesn’t mean that he didn’t learn the lesson. So he is not man enough to come in and apologize for the size 14 in his mouth, big deal. As long as he learned that the Pit is not a good place for him to practice his micromanagement skills and leaves it alone, everybody wins.

Let sleeping dogs lie.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/234 "2009-02-03T12:39:23Z")

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> [@Sapo](#):
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> You know, just because he is being all chickenshit about it, doesn’t mean that he didn’t learn the lesson. So he is not man enough to come in and apologize for the size 14 in his mouth, big deal. As long as he learned that the Pit is not a good place for him to practice his micromanagement skills and leaves it alone, everybody wins.

Not sure that’s true.

I’d guess that he’ll come blustering back in a few weeks or months, banning people over nothing, imposing weird-ass interpretations of time-honored rules and practices, defending some lame-ass Mod for throwing a hissy-fit, etc., and it would be nice to link to his concession here that he fucked up. But since we’re not getting any kind of acknowledgment or concession, I suspect he’s handwaving this entire episode. “Those are not the humiliating authoritarian outbursts you’re looking for.”

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/235 "2009-02-03T13:25:10Z")

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Unfortunately for Colibri, there will be no handwaving for him. This was a truly embarrassing bitch slap that we rarely see around here to such a degree. The whole “butthurt knife fight” humiliation will undoubtedly live in Doper infamy.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/236 "2009-02-03T13:32:25Z")

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Hey guys, you “won the thread” on this one. We all seem to agree. But your celebration dance after scoring the touchdown is embarrassing. Act like you’ve been here before. How does continuing to rub his nose in it help? It can’t still be fun. You’ve made your point, let it die.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/237 "2009-02-03T14:32:18Z")

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I think this thread should remain open at least as long as those LOTR or SciFi fanwanks; at least the tards can drool over something that actually happened this time.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/238 "2009-02-03T14:37:17Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Hey guys, you “won the thread” on this one. We all seem to agree. But your celebration dance after scoring the touchdown is embarrassing. Act like you’ve been here before. How does continuing to rub his nose in it help? It can’t still be fun. You’ve made your point, let it die.

Yeah, my point precisely with “let sleeping dogs lie”.

I am done with the original purpose of this thread. This doesn’t mean, however, that you cannot still squeeze some weird stuff from it like the Assperanto-ethnic slur nugget we just had. Threads have lives of their own.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/239 "2009-02-03T15:00:17Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Hey guys, you “won the thread” on this one. We all seem to agree. But your celebration dance after scoring the touchdown is embarrassing. Act like you’ve been here before. How does continuing to rub his nose in it help? It can’t still be fun. You’ve made your point, let it die.

When you screw up and then apologise that´s the end. When you screw up and persist in your mistake by not apologising then, as long as you persist, you deserve to be called on it.

I generally do not get involved in these threads and do not remember why I got involved in this one but there there is a long history here of similar screwups.

I learnt very young that it is easier and more honorable to apologise frankly and profusely than to try to defend the indefensible. Once you apologise it´s over.

Some people are unable to apologise with words but at least they try to make up by buying chocolate or offering a blow job. It´s their way of admitting their mistake. I am not expecting anything of the sort here.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/240 "2009-02-03T15:31:54Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Hey guys, you “won the thread” on this one. We all seem to agree. But your celebration dance after scoring the touchdown is embarrassing. Act like you’ve been here before. How does continuing to rub his nose in it help? It can’t still be fun. You’ve made your point, let it die.

We’ve been in this partcular endzone, Jim, all too often these past few months. The problem is while we’re high-fiving each other and doing our little hotdoggy gimmicks, pointing at each other, standing on our heads, etc., the scoreboard still refuses to register the touchdown. So we’re just having fun until it does.

too much mtaphor?

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