# Ed, WTF?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 23, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650 "2009-01-23T15:46:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/361 "2009-02-15T00:32:32Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> (fixed quote mine)
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> May you get a very a nasty paper cut that really stings.
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> I await my banning.:rolleyes:

I’m still wondering about the post quoted above-does that apply to things like sporting events-“We’re gonna kick your loser asses!” Once upon a time, this may have sounded like a stupid question, but considering the tone **Ed** has been taking…

(At least we haven’t seen the “Pit Rules Suspended” bullshit…YET)  
As for **Sapo** , generally, I call Suicide By Mod, even if he did have some legit complaints. Sadly, his method of expressing them only made it less likely for them to be taken seriously.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/362 "2009-02-15T00:36:33Z")

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> [@Chief\_Pedant](#):
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> Pretending a “no-threat” rule was violated by use of the term FOAD is both ignorant and comical.

QFT

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/363 "2009-02-15T01:19:10Z")

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FOAD is now a threat? This is absolutely ridiculous. A bunch of preteens would have more common sense. A **Giraffe** would have more common sense. Stupidity runs rampant. What kind of ridiculous _gotcha!_ game are we playing here?

**Sapo** ’s tone was pretty mild for what is usual in the pit and to say any of his statements can truly be interpreted as threats is beyond average stupid, it is stronger than industrial-strength stupid. Ed needs to go take a long walk on a short pier.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/364 "2009-02-15T01:29:35Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> Ed needs to go take a long walk on a short pier.

Assuming he can swim, of course. Otherwise…

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/365 "2009-02-15T02:31:39Z")

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Is telling someone to eat a bag of dicks still allowed or is that too close to hoping they choke?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/366 "2009-02-15T02:32:47Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Is telling someone to eat a bag of dicks still allowed or is that too close to hoping they choke?

Of course not. Every fool knows you eat a bag of dicks one dick at a time.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/367 "2009-02-15T02:36:59Z")

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The problem with dicks is that they are the perfect diameter for choking.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/368 "2009-02-15T02:38:41Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Is telling someone to eat a bag of dicks still allowed or is that too close to hoping they choke?

Depends on big they are. Did Ron Jeremy grow them?

Edit: also **Q.E.D.** seems to know a little too much about eating a bag of dicks.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/369 "2009-02-15T02:47:25Z")

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I’ve always stayed out of board politics but the time has come to offer my 2 cents worth.

I think the interpretation of the Sapo FOAD comment as a threat is a bunch of cow plop. Calling FOAD a threat is like calling \*3 Dogs Playing Poker \*fine art.

The staff needs to realize that this board is now a business and needs to be run like one. Quit trying to fix things that work.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/370 "2009-02-15T02:47:55Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Is telling someone to eat a bag of dicks still allowed or is that too close to hoping they choke?

I’ve never heard of anyone choking on [geoducks](http://www.dec.state.ak.us/EH/images/lab/geoduck.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/371 "2009-02-15T02:54:40Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> I’ve never heard of anyone choking on [geoducks](http://www.dec.state.ak.us/EH/images/lab/geoduck.jpeg)

You see Geo **duck** for the first time and think “I wonder what kind of duck that is? _click_”. Only to find a penis with a clam attached.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/372 "2009-02-15T03:27:26Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> I’ve always stayed out of board politics but the time has come to offer my 2 cents worth.
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> I think the interpretation of the Sapo FOAD comment as a threat is a bunch of cow plop. Calling FOAD a threat is like calling \*3 Dogs Playing Poker \*fine art.
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> The staff needs to realize that this board is now a business and needs to be run like one. Quit trying to fix things that work.

Meh, they were looking for an excuse to ban him-and he gave them one. So now they have to cover their asses.

And if they haven’t realized this place is a business by now, they never will. **Ed** doesn’t know jackshit about customer service. I never believed “the customer is always right!”, but the fact that he’s always, “My way or the highway!”, when he barely comes around proves he’s got his head so far up his ass he’s licking his tonils.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/373 "2009-02-15T04:08:36Z")

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> [@Suse](#):
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> The mods (and Ed) are human and they definitely screw up at times. But I don’t think they made a mistake this time; Sapo was clearly asking for it.

This.

**Sapo** had been warned. Many, many, many, many, many times. And he still felt the need to stick his thumb on his nose and waggle his fingers at the moderator.

It doesn’t matter if things are right or wrong. Freedom of speech is a nice idea..but it doesn’t apply here. This is not a democracy. This is a forum that is run by admins who can make any rules they want and if you don’t like them, it’s very easy: You can leave or bitch about them until you’re banned.

He seemed to have so many complaints about this board I have no idea why he stayed. Seems to me the mods and admins were just helping him out in banning him.

The admins make the rules. They tell people what they can or can’t do here. As far as I can tell, **Sapo** was told a few times..and yet he still wanted to push the line. He reminds me of a brother in the backseat of a car told to stop touching his sister’s arm and so he holds his finger about an inch away from her and when she screams he says “WHAT? I’m not touching her.”

It doesn’t matter if you agree or disagree with the rules. That is a moot point. If the admins want to make using the word “chair” a bannable offense, they can. No, you don’t have to like it. But you don’t have to post either.

And I think complaining and having the right to do so is just fine. But in my observations, **Sapo** did this with extreme pleasure and often. He never seemed to pass up a chance to do so. Complaining is one thing. Complainin every other post (hyperbole, but it fit him more than any other poster) is an entire other thing.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/374 "2009-02-15T04:52:39Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> This.
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> **Sapo** had been warned. Many, many, many, many, many times. And he still felt the need to stick his thumb on his nose and waggle his fingers at the moderator.
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> It doesn’t matter if things are right or wrong. Freedom of speech is a nice idea..but it doesn’t apply here. This is not a democracy. This is a forum that is run by admins who can make any rules they want and if you don’t like them, it’s very easy: You can leave or bitch about them until you’re banned.
> 
> He seemed to have so many complaints about this board I have no idea why he stayed. Seems to me the mods and admins were just helping him out in banning him.
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> The admins make the rules. They tell people what they can or can’t do here. As far as I can tell, **Sapo** was told a few times..and yet he still wanted to push the line. He reminds me of a brother in the backseat of a car told to stop touching his sister’s arm and so he holds his finger about an inch away from her and when she screams he says “WHAT? I’m not touching her.”
> 
> It doesn’t matter if you agree or disagree with the rules. That is a moot point. If the admins want to make using the word “chair” a bannable offense, they can. No, you don’t have to like it. But you don’t have to post either.
> 
> And I think complaining and having the right to do so is just fine. But in my observations, **Sapo** did this with extreme pleasure and often. He never seemed to pass up a chance to do so. Complaining is one thing. Complainin every other post (hyperbole, but it fit him more than any other poster) is an entire other thing.

I agree about **Sapo** ’s behavior. If he had been warned that many times before, (and I’m taking you at your word to avoid the inevitable cite-fest), then tone it down or begone I guess.

Color me a little skeptical as to a decision to outright ban him, but a discussion amongst the \*powers that be \*warrant a serious meeting of the minds. People have paid to commiserate here, I know I have, and I’d hate for a website I’ve paid for when there are many others that are free become the antithesis of it’s mission, which is to try to fight ignorance.

Many of the natives are restless, and some have a good point. I think the confusion above all stems from the “newly implemented rules” regarding the Pit, and their subsequent lack of coherency about what is what. I don’t think everyone truly understands the “loose moderation” new rule in place of the “almost zero moderation rule” that “governed” this particular forum in the past.

There needs to be a very simple set of minor rules for this forum, and that’s it. This is supposed to be where the ranting psycho in you is allowed to come out and play.  
However, I can also understand taking a hard stance on statements that are beyond the pale with regards to death threats, real or insinuated, etcetera to preserve some modicum of civility, yes, even in the Pit.

But hell…I’m the new guy here. What do I know?

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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/375 "2009-02-15T05:33:31Z")

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This.

I dunno. \*\*Idle Thoughts \*\*is a cool enough guy and could use the “This”, so I thought I’d try it too.

I’m probably not as good at using it though.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/376 "2009-02-15T05:42:58Z")

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> [@bbs2k](#):
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> This.
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> I dunno. \*\*Idle Thoughts \*\*is a cool enough guy and could use the “This”, so I thought I’d try it too.
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> I’m probably not as good at using it though.

Yeah, but what does he think about **Giraffe**?

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/377 "2009-02-15T06:45:36Z")

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> [@bbs2k](#):
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> This.
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> I dunno. \*\*Idle Thoughts \*\*is a cool enough guy and could use the “This”, so I thought I’d try it too.
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> I’m probably not as good at using it though.

Just curious. Where did you find the post you quoted?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/378 "2009-02-15T07:05:09Z")

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I suppose it’s not worth mentioning at this point that there’s two things the mods have consistently been pissy about: That Place, and posting a message from a suspended/banned poster?

Yeah, I didn’t really think so either.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Armageddon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Mister\_Armageddon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Armageddon)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/379 "2009-02-15T07:43:38Z")

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I wish y’all would just do the honest thing and add the following to the rules:

If you embarrass one of the mods, we will ban you. It just might take a few days while we search your post history to find a plausible reason.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/380 "2009-02-15T07:45:13Z")

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Well, you know Big Baby Sweets–always happy to pour gasoline on the fire. Of course, since it’s Big Baby Sweets, the question remains, “Did he mean to do that or is he just colossally stupid?”

Who knows?

Hostile Dialect,  
Hostile Dialect, Narcissist

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