# Ed, WTF?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 23, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650 "2009-01-23T15:46:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/381 "2009-02-15T11:10:58Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> Just curious. Where did you find the post you quoted?

Rhymes with “Shark Shit”.

> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> Well, you know Big Baby Sweets–always happy to pour gasoline on the fire. Of course, since it’s Big Baby Sweets, the question remains, “Did he mean to do that or is he just colossally stupid?”
> 
> Who knows?
> 
> Hostile Dialect,  
> Hostile Dialect, Narcissist

“Big Baby Sweets”? Have you got a crush or what?

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/382 "2009-02-15T11:26:57Z")

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> [@Mister\_Armageddon](#):
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> I wish y’all would just do the honest thing and add the following to the rules:
> 
> If you embarrass one of the mods, we will ban you. It just might take a few days while we search your post history to find a plausible reason.

More like:

If a mod embarasses himself and you happen to be within striking distance we will ban you even though our stupid, made-up justification will make us look like fools. We don’t care.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/383 "2009-02-15T11:33:18Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> “Big Baby Sweets”? Have you got a crush or what?

What do you think bbs stands for? I think the kid’s got cojones: big brass 'uns.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/384 "2009-02-15T11:38:05Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> **Sapo** had been warned. Many, many, many, many, many times. And he still felt the need to stick his thumb on his nose and waggle his fingers at the moderator.

I have no idea about **Sapo** ’s history but anyone who says FOAD or butthurt are “threats” is a moron.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> It doesn’t matter if things are right or wrong.

Oh, Ok then. Let’s go kill some Iraqis then.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Freedom of speech is a nice idea..but it doesn’t apply here.

No, but common sense and decency should apply. Anyone who says FOAD or butthurt are “threats” is a moron. Free speech or no free speech.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> This is not a democracy. This is a forum that is run by admins who can make any rules they want and if you don’t like them, it’s very easy: You can leave or bitch about them until you’re banned.

Wonderful. Except they make some rules and they apply other , non-declared rules like “we reserve the right to be totally idiotic and act like preteen juveniles having a fit over some idiotic perceived slight”.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> He seemed to have so many complaints about this board I have no idea why he stayed. Seems to me the mods and admins were just helping him out in banning him.

I have no idea about his history but in this case he was 100% right.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> The admins make the rules. They tell people what they can or can’t do here.

And then they ban someone for something which objectively does not break any of the stated rules.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/385 "2009-02-15T12:04:47Z")

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> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#):
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> What do you think bbs stands for? I think the kid’s got cojones: big brass 'uns.

Ok, I missed that one entirely. :smack: My bad.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/386 "2009-02-15T12:24:55Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> “Big Baby Sweets”? Have you got a crush or what?

Nope– **bbs2k** is short for **bigbabysweets2000** , his old moniker. He changed it because too many people thought he was female/bear.

> [@Hostile Dialect](#):
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> Well, you know Big Baby Sweets–always happy to pour gasoline on the fire. Of course, since it’s Big Baby Sweets, the question remains, “Did he mean to do that or is he just colossally stupid?”
> 
> Who knows?
> 
> Hostile Dialect,  
> Hostile Dialect, Narcissist

It turns out that Big Baby Sweets has delivered some new insight on this question. He hinted at trotting it out here, but I thought it would be a nice gesture for me to bring it up instead.

He asks, simply, “Why can’t it be both?”

Hostile Dialect,  
Hostile Dialect, Narcissist

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/387 "2009-02-15T12:32:44Z")

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> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#):
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> Nope– **bbs2k** is short for **bigbabysweets2000** , his old moniker. He changed it because too many people thought he was female/bear.

How in the world does a bear get ahold of the Internet?

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/388 "2009-02-15T12:34:16Z")

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I reported **Sapo** ’s post (others may well have too). I did so assuming they would ban him for it. Not because it was a threat - it obviously wasn’t - but because he had _clearly_ become one of those posters who post pretty much entirely to goad the mods. Some posters get like this. Some of them have good reasons for getting upset in the first place. But if you become one of those posters, you’re going to go. And if you think you’re clever enough to stay just this side of the line, you’re going to go sooner because it’s really obvious.

We all know this.

So even if you reckon you’ve got a legitimate beef against the administration about something - and many (including me) do - you’ve got to decide to go or stay and move on and post mostly about things other than the administration of the boards. Or you risk leaving a jerk.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/389 "2009-02-15T12:40:55Z")

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> [@hawthorne](#):
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> I reported **Sapo** ’s post (others may well have too). I did so assuming they would ban him for it. Not because it was a threat - it obviously wasn’t - but because he had _clearly_ become one of those posters who post pretty much entirely to goad the mods. Some posters get like this. Some of them have good reasons for getting upset in the first place. But if you become one of those posters, you’re going to go. And if you think you’re clever enough to stay just this side of the line, you’re going to go sooner because it’s really obvious.
> 
> We all know this.
> 
> So even if you reckon you’ve got a legitimate beef against the administration about something - and many (including me) do - you’ve got to decide to go or stay and move on and post mostly about things other than the administration of the boards. Or you risk leaving a jerk.

You are a true hero. :rolleyes:

Sorry, make that – you are a meddling, stick-your-sensitive-nose-where-it-does-not-belong-ninny – asshole.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/390 "2009-02-15T12:42:02Z")

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> [@hawthorne](#):
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> I reported **Sapo** ’s post (others may well have too). I did so assuming they would ban him for it. Not because it was a threat - it obviously wasn’t - but because he had _clearly_ become one of those posters who post pretty much entirely to goad the mods. Some posters get like this. Some of them have good reasons for getting upset in the first place. But if you become one of those posters, you’re going to go. And if you think you’re clever enough to stay just this side of the line, you’re going to go sooner because it’s really obvious.
> 
> We all know this.
> 
> So even if you reckon you’ve got a legitimate beef against the administration about something - and many (including me) do - you’ve got to decide to go or stay and move on and post mostly about things other than the administration of the boards. Or you risk leaving a jerk.

Cite? Just recently I have seen him around several other threads I have been involved with. He was like any other poster. He posted critical comments against mods in threads that were critical about mods in the correct forum. If you didn’t think it was a threat then there was no reason to report.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/391 "2009-02-15T12:45:04Z")

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> [@bbs2k](#):
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> This.
> 
> I dunno. \*\*Idle Thoughts \*\*is a cool enough guy and could use the “This”, so I thought I’d try it too.
> 
> I’m probably not as good at using it though.

Please do not post messages from suspended or banned members.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/392 "2009-02-15T13:12:02Z")

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> [@hawthorne](#):
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> But if you become one of those posters, you’re going to go.

**Hawthorne** , Respectfully, fuck you. You’ve decided why **Sapo** was posting, and you decided that it upset you to much to keep reading his Pit threads, and you decided he had to go. The ignore button was made for people like you, at least it was back in the day when it made any sense to use it. Now, all you have to do is report someone’s posts and if he has violated the one unviolable law of the SDMB, which used to be “Don’t be a jerk” but now is “Don’t piss \*\*Ed \*\*off,” he’s gone.

You’ve done an awful thing here, by acting on your offendedness and reporting him.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/393 "2009-02-15T13:14:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _Loach_  
> If you didn’t think it was a threat then there was no reason to report.

I’m not saying that he isn’t a loss - pretty much all long-term posters who get banned are. But my reading was that he’s been on a goad-the-mods-jag for some months.

> [@leander](#):
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> Sorry, make that – you are a meddling, stick-your-sensitive-nose-where-it-does-not-belong-ninny – asshole.

You must know me professionally. 😃

Posters who get like that pollute these boards. It’s not meddling to point out an opportunity to flush.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/394 "2009-02-15T13:18:18Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> How in the world does a bear get ahold of the Internet?

If you can’t [bear](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_community) not knowing…

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/395 "2009-02-15T13:18:59Z")

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> [@hawthorne](#):
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> It’s not meddling to point out an opportunity to flush.

:dubious: Are you sure?

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**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/396 "2009-02-15T13:23:14Z")

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**hawthorne** is like one of those security guards that don’t make it to a proper police force so they become abusive stuck up assholes that talk about cop life all the time, except all he accomplished was becoming a SDMB Junior Mod.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/397 "2009-02-15T13:23:39Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> **Hawthorne** , Respectfully, fuck you. You’ve decided why **Sapo** was posting, and you decided that it upset you to much to keep reading his Pit threads, and you decided he had to go. The ignore button was made for people like you, at least it was back in the day when it made any sense to use it. Now, all you have to do is report someone’s posts and if he has violated the one unviolable law of the SDMB, which used to be “Don’t be a jerk” but now is “Don’t piss \*\*Ed \*\*off,” he’s gone.
> 
> You’ve done an awful thing here, by acting on your offendedness and reporting him.

Oh, please. I’m nobody here. I determine nothing and am barely heard in any thread. I’m one of those people whose post counts cause people to wonder whether I post extensively in Lord of the Rings minutiae threads. \*If \*the mods saw my report, my handle wouldn’t have caused them to think “wow, \*hawthorne \* reported it, it must be serious!”

**Sapo** doesn’t remotely offend or upset me. He just got tedious.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/398 "2009-02-15T13:25:31Z")

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Hawthorne, why have you become so ill lately? What has set you off?

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/399 "2009-02-15T13:28:28Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Hawthorne, why have you become so ill lately? What has set you off?

They’re looking for a new jackbooted thug don’tcha know? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-wtf/482650/400 "2009-02-15T14:18:33Z")

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Do you people think that **Sapo** ’s post - a direct response to **Lynn** and in a thread that at least some other mods are reading - would somehow go unnoticed if it hadn’t been reported? (And I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts that it was reported far more than once.) What a bunch of ninnies.

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