# Ed, you are a damn liar! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 19, 2004, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299 "2004-03-19T22:28:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/21 "2004-03-23T00:08:15Z")
According to [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4668015&postcount=7) (and the entire thread makes for good reading on this subject), over five years, the SDMB has cost the Chicago Reader (and remember, this is with NO appreciable benefit to the company) over $100,000. That averages to about $20,000 a year, and almost $1700 a month. Now what was that about not being a lot of money? ---
**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/22 "2004-03-23T05:12:01Z")
Now it’s about $19, 995/yr after my $5, Mr. Guest. - still not that much for a business to come up with every year. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/23 "2004-03-23T10:33:38Z")
I’m still trying to figure out the best payment option. And try asking a business on the level of the Chicago Reader, or heck, even Microsoft, “would you spend $20,000 a year on something that gives you absolutely no revenue or tangible benefit whatsoever?” and see how many say yes. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/24 "2004-03-23T10:55:47Z")
> [@Blown & Injected](#): > > Now it’s about $19, 995/yr after my $5, Mr. Guest. - still not that much for a business to come up with every year. You’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/25 "2004-03-23T13:09:28Z")
> [@Blown & Injected](#): > > Now it’s about $19, 995/yr after my $5, Mr. Guest. - still not that much for a business to come up with every year. I wondered when I’d see the first post pointing out the difference in Member Titles between Paying and non-Paying. Pretty much assumed it would be in the Pit. Maybe I’ll have to start the “Paying/non-Paying Drinking Game” soon? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/26 "2004-03-23T13:21:24Z")
> [@Una Persson](#): > > Maybe I’ll have to start the “Paying/non-Paying Drinking Game” soon? Sounds great - your round :). ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/27 "2004-03-23T13:29:05Z")
Thank God someone finally opened a Pit thread on the subscription fee. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/28 "2004-03-23T13:44:37Z")
**elf6c** , you just aren’t thinking big enough! What we need as a special bitch and whine thread fee! Yes, folks, for just an annual payment of $14.95, yes, only $14.95, in addition to your regular low, LOW membership fee, you get _ **your very own stickied thread in the “Whine and Jeez Forum”!!!** _ That’s right, act NOW and you’ll have a thread that never fades away, a thread where you can pour out all the bile and vitriol that bubbles up whenever THAT poster opens its feces-smeared piehole, whenever some Doper is such a dope you just can’t take it any more, when ANYTHING IN THE WORLD pisses you off! Just flame away! And that’s not all! Nope, unlike the Pit, where some people have the nerve to point out fallacies, misunderstandings, and general brainfartness of other posters, _ **you control the posts in your thread!!!** _ Yes, folks, if anyone has the never to disagree with you, you can delete their posts! Edit them to make the person look like a dunce! Never have to admit you’re wrong again! So act now, while supplies last! Not available in all universes. Void where prohibited by common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/29 "2004-03-23T13:52:57Z")
> [@Dead Badger](#): > > Sounds great - your round :). Every time someone makes another shopworn Bush flame, you take a drink. … OK, that goes too fast. Let’s try again. - Every time someone starts a thread on the Pay to Post subject, take a drink. - Every time someone predicts “The Death of the SDMB”, take a drink. - Every time a sock flames out before April 22, take a drink. - Every time someone uses “Hi Opal” _correctly_ (accordnig to tradition), take a drink. ---
**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/30 "2004-03-23T14:33:45Z")
Just how long is it going to take for all the bitching to die down, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/31 "2004-03-23T15:00:56Z")
> [@Exgineer](#): > > Just how long is it going to take for all the bitching to die down, anyway? Probably till about April 23rd. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/32 "2004-03-23T15:10:07Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > You’re an idiot. Hang on I must have misunderstood, I thought paying the $4.95 gave us life time immunity from insults. You mean I’m still out of the clique? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/33 "2004-03-23T15:31:10Z")
Personally, I think this entire brouhaha is a massive left-wing conspiracy designed to deflect attention from Barbra Streisand’s ass. ---
**Author:** ![beajerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@beajerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beajerry)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/34 "2004-03-23T16:54:59Z")
You won’t hear my bitching after April 23rd. The only consolation I get by my decision not to pay is that the SDMB will _still_ take 20 minutes to download every friggin’ page. Well…I’ll still be lurking so that consolation is probably no good. Dammit! _got your list of 30-day guests ready yet?_ ---
**Author:** ![carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrot)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/35 "2004-03-23T17:13:45Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > Personally, I think this entire brouhaha is a massive left-wing conspiracy designed to deflect attention from Barbra Streisand’s ass. Anything that prevents me from seeing Barbra Streisand’s ass is a Good Thing. ---
**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/36 "2004-03-23T19:20:13Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > You’re an idiot. You make no sense The SDMB does give benefits to TCR just because some are to dim to recognize it does not mean there is no benefit When is it time for me to have a drink - better do it now - just in case ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/37 "2004-03-23T19:33:21Z")
> [@Una Persson](#): > > - Every time someone predicts “The Death of the SDMB”, take a drink. Death of the SDMB imminent. Film at 11. /usenet ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/38 "2004-03-23T22:48:59Z")
> [@](#): > > Now it’s about $19, 995/yr after my $5, Mr. Guest. - still not that much for a business to come up with every year. You think every business has billions in spare revenue that they can just flush down the drain? Nah, there’s no point in trying logic… Lib’s way is easier: You’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/39 "2004-03-23T23:16:20Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > Death of the SDMB imminent. Film at 11. > > /usenet Yup, I was hoping someone got the reference. I was seeing the “death of the Net” posted about in Bush Senior’s term on the Net. I still remember people howling about how http and the WWW would bring about the “destruction of all we hold dear on the Net”. And they were right - look what happened! Now it’s impossible for me FTP 8-bit 200x100 pixel lesbian porn from [garbo.uwasa.fi](http://garbo.uwasa.fi)! ---
**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299/40 "2004-03-23T23:44:34Z")
> [@SPOOFE](#): > > You think every business has billions in spare revenue that they can just flush down the drain? > > Nah, there’s no point in trying logic… Lib’s way is easier: You’re an idiot. Yeah billions :rolleyes: - lookie here you fucking morons, we are talking about just over $50 per day - try logic someday, you might be surprised, but probably not. Now go back and form a commission or something to study and report on the best method to deliver the $5 to the SDMB. Another guest speaks - do I get to drink again? When are we gonna firm up the rules on this game 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-you-are-a-damn-liar/235299.md?page=3)