# Ed Zotti: why did you close my thread?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti-why-did-you-close-my-thread/463011>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2008, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti-why-did-you-close-my-thread/463011 "2008-09-10T22:30:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti-why-did-you-close-my-thread/463011/21 "2008-09-10T23:36:35Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Maybe you should start doing something other than complaining about this message board, which is all that I have, at least, seen you do since I’ve been coming here.
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> It’s really stupid to keep on posting if you hate it here so much. Just my two cents.

> **[Can Heart forbid McCain/Palin from playing their music? (Copyright Q)](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482529)**
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> While referring to the political campaigns I am asking her about the legalities surrounding Copyright infringement at issue in this. CNN reported that Ann and Nancy Wilson (original members of the band Heart) have asked the McCain campaign to stop...

> **[Why is the U.S. press so horrid?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482223)**
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> Please lets try to avoid the question of whether the press is biased or not and just focus on core competence. What I’m asking is why does the U.S. press do such a poor job of things like reporting issues instead of gossip. Or asking follow-up...

> **[Getting an excerpt from an MP3?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481992)**
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> This may be a really stupid question, but I am profoundly technologically impaired so please have patience. And yes, I did Google first, but maybe I’m not asking correctly. I have an .MP3 of a song that I want to use about 45 seconds of as the...

> **[iPod/iTunes question](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481829)**
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> I know you can’t copy songs from the Pod to the Tunes, but I thought you could copy playlists. I collected a bunch of songs into my “on the go” list, to use later for a mix disc. But I can’t figure out how to copy the list over to iTunes; I’ll have...

> **[Sarah Palin slashed funding for teenage moms](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481570)**
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> Oh, the hypocrisy: The negative revelations about Palin are coming so quick and heavy that I fear they’ll drown each other out. This one is especially stunning in its irony, though. I guess only her own kid deserves to be supported when she gets...

> **[NonSubscribers Can Post?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481365)**
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> Hello, I signed up with a guest account some time ago and have regularly lurked and read since then. After reading another topic, I thought I’d try logging in, and lo and behold, I can post. In case this wasn’t supposed to happen, I thought I’d do...

And that’s just since free posting came back! I’ll be sure to keep you abreast of my future posting habits, since you seem to be woefully uninformed of them.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti-why-did-you-close-my-thread/463011/22 "2008-09-10T23:43:24Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> If Ed’s going to start dictating all the conversations “we should [not] be having right now”, maybe Ed should start a blog. That’s where ONE person controls the discussion, as opposed to a message board, where discussion is open to members.

No, blogs are pompous.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti-why-did-you-close-my-thread/463011/23 "2008-09-10T23:49:02Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> [Can Heart forbid McCain/Palin from playing their music? (Copyright Q) - Factual Questions - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482529)
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> [Why is the U.S. press so horrid? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482223)
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> [Getting an excerpt from an MP3? - Factual Questions - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481992)
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> [iPod/iTunes question - Factual Questions - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481829)
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> [Sarah Palin slashed funding for teenage moms - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481570)
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> [NonSubscribers Can Post? - About This Message Board - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481365)
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> And that’s just since free posting came back! I’ll be sure to keep you abreast of my future posting habits, since you seem to be woefully uninformed of them.

Uninformed? Maybe some, yeah, but I’ve seen your name attached to more than two or three Pit threads about the boards in the past. I’m not attacking you in any way here..I’m just wondering why you continue to post if you seem to dislike the board so much. You even let your membership expire. I assume that’s because you had it with the boards.  
But if one thing could be predicted in my own mind, back in the day, it’s that **Garfield###** (at the time, I didn’t know the numbers so that’s how I had thought of you, but now I know it’s 226; hey, thanks! 🙂 ) would be found in most any thread that was about complaining about the administration of these boards or how they work/are run/act/etc.

It’s like I’d click on a thread and think “I bet you **Garfield** is in this thread…” (yes, I think to myself like that, heh).

So, I dunno, just seeing you in this topic was no surprise. As soon as I saw you had returned (yes, I’m stalking youuuu OOooooOOOo), I figured “well, it’s only a matter of time before he shows up in thread complaining about the board.”  
And it’s not like you (and others) don’t have good reason…this isn’t about the **Ed Zotti** stuff–it’s free and clear of that and completely unrelated. It has to do with the fact that you, **Garfield** (specifically and personally) always seem to be one of the hugest complainers about the boards in general, so it’s just really confusing to me why you persist on staying and posting (as it is anyone who just seems to continually complain about the boards–I know of about four or five other “regular” complainers who seem to do nothing much but just complain). I could understand having paid for it before and being a paying member but that excuse doesn’t hold any more water.  
It’s like this topic. I clicked on it and just knew I’d find you in it and seeing your post, it’s like, uh, why not just make your own blog so you can continually make entries in it about how much the SDMB sucks?  
Seriously, why do you stay? I’m sincerely curious.

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**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti-why-did-you-close-my-thread/463011/24 "2008-09-11T00:19:03Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Uninformed? Maybe some, yeah, but I’ve seen your name attached to more than two or three Pit threads about the boards in the past. I’m not attacking you in any way here..I’m just wondering why you continue to post if you seem to dislike the board so much. You even let your membership expire. I assume that’s because you had it with the boards.  
> But if one thing could be predicted in my own mind, back in the day, it’s that **Garfield###** (at the time, I didn’t know the numbers so that’s how I had thought of you, but now I know it’s 226; hey, thanks! 🙂 ) would be found in most any thread that was about complaining about the administration of these boards or how they work/are run/act/etc.
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> It’s like I’d click on a thread and think “I bet you **Garfield** is in this thread…” (yes, I think to myself like that, heh).
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> So, I dunno, just seeing you in this topic was no surprise. As soon as I saw you had returned (yes, I’m stalking youuuu OOooooOOOo), I figured “well, it’s only a matter of time before he shows up in thread complaining about the board.”  
> And it’s not like you (and others) don’t have good reason…this isn’t about the **Ed Zotti** stuff–it’s free and clear of that and completely unrelated. It has to do with the fact that you, **Garfield** (specifically and personally) always seem to be one of the hugest complainers about the boards in general, so it’s just really confusing to me why you persist on staying and posting (as it is anyone who just seems to continually complain about the boards–I know of about four or five other “regular” complainers who seem to do nothing much but just complain). I could understand having paid for it before and being a paying member but that excuse doesn’t hold any more water.  
> It’s like this topic. I clicked on it and just knew I’d find you in it and seeing your post, it’s like, uh, why not just make your own blog so you can continually make entries in it about how much the SDMB sucks?  
> Seriously, why do you stay? I’m sincerely curious.

Had a long post typed out and the board ate it. But I won’t complain, I guess.

At the moment, I’m bored. Overall, it’s because I used to like this place and I like helping out when I can, whether with factual answers (the GQ links) or perspectives on things I happen to know about.

Since free posting, I’ve lurked a lot more than I used to (meaning I’ve been here a little less, but posted a lot less (in my perception)), and considered just not coming back at all (it would be no big loss for either side of the equation, and I say that not at all sarcastically). But like I say, I see a question in GQ I know about and, why NOT answer it? That’s the whole point of the place.

As for the whole complaining thing – well, it’s pretty simple: I think the administration sucks, to the tune of not seeing the boards growing to their full potential. In some situations, I’m sure I’ve been wrong, and in some I still feel I was right. But when I’ve complained, even when it was futile, it’s been because I’ve thought the boards were worse off for whatever it was I was complaining against.

I recognize on any issue like that you’re going to have people on either side, and I recognize that on some of those issues there were far more folks on the side that it was a dumb thing to complain about. But that’s basically why.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti-why-did-you-close-my-thread/463011/25 "2008-09-11T00:25:07Z")

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> [@Garfield226](#):
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> Had a long post typed out and the board ate it. But I won’t complain, I guess.
> 
> At the moment, I’m bored. Overall, it’s because I used to like this place and I like helping out when I can, whether with factual answers (the GQ links) or perspectives on things I happen to know about.
> 
> Since free posting, I’ve lurked a lot more than I used to (meaning I’ve been here a little less, but posted a lot less (in my perception)), and considered just not coming back at all (it would be no big loss for either side of the equation, and I say that not at all sarcastically). But like I say, I see a question in GQ I know about and, why NOT answer it? That’s the whole point of the place.
> 
> As for the whole complaining thing – well, it’s pretty simple: I think the administration sucks, to the tune of not seeing the boards growing to their full potential. In some situations, I’m sure I’ve been wrong, and in some I still feel I was right. But when I’ve complained, even when it was futile, it’s been because I’ve thought the boards were worse off for whatever it was I was complaining against.
> 
> I recognize on any issue like that you’re going to have people on either side, and I recognize that on some of those issues there were far more folks on the side that it was a dumb thing to complain about. But that’s basically why.

**Garfield** , your post here has garnered (from me) new respect for you (although I hardly expect you (or anyone here) to care whether or not I (or anyone here) respects them or not). Thank you for answering honestly, though, and for reanswering when the board ate your first reply.

I’m sorry I called you out in this topic that was about another matter entirely and I apologize to **NineToTheSky** also for the minor hijack in his topic. I just didn’t want to start a whole other pit about you and, really, it was a small thing anyway. I should have actually PMed you about it and I’m sorry I didn’t.

I guess it was just a build up of constantly seeing people (not just you) seemingly complain about these boards (although not at this current drama–I’m talking about those who seemingly do it constantly) and since you were right here, it was too tempting not to finally ask you about it.

But again, I’m sorry…and again, thank you for your answer. That does make sense.

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