# Ed Zotti **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 12, 2000, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859 "2000-04-12T02:48:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/21 "2000-04-13T05:33:00Z")
Holy shit! What the hell was that? I think Cecil has hacked Ed’s password and is out to make him look foolish. Hey, Wally. Ya wanna get back at Ed? Why don’t you whip up one of your finest customs sig lines for him? ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2000, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/22 "2000-04-13T05:56:00Z")
StrTkr777 > [@](#): > > Where are you down at offering tea to Ed? You do not have a location listed. Are you in the South? Hope so. Down here in Oklahoma StrTkr, where the men are men and the sheep are nervous. ## Saaaalllute~! They May Put Me In Prison, But They Can’t Stop My Face From Breakin’ Out - famous C&W song \* Yours truly, aha ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/23 "2000-04-12T18:04:00Z")
Mmmmmmmm, sweet tea. ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/24 "2000-04-12T18:07:00Z")
Unc, I can make a sig for him, but he has to ask me first. In a new thread. With my name it. He has to ask extra double special nice and display the thread right below Threadspotting. I also need a coffe mug, a T shirt, and the power to delete any post on a whim. I’m not going to be his sig whore without making him pay through the proboscis. ---
**Author:** ![StrTrkr777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@StrTrkr777](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StrTrkr777)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/25 "2000-04-12T18:11:00Z")
I been through Okalhoma, don’t remember any sheep, but maybe I was not looking in the right places. Well, Ed, if you are ever in Atlanta, drop by for some tea. We can then grab Tuba and some of the other Atlantans and have a real good time. Same goes for you Aha and Mrs. Aha. Jeffery ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/26 "2000-04-12T18:59:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by StrTrkr777: > **IWe can then grab Tuba and some of the other Atlantans and have a real good time. > Jeffery** ## Careful, men. The last guy who grabbed Tuba ended up with two black eyes and a limp. And she tied one arm behind her back first. Uke ---
**Author:** ![aha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eada6e/32.png) [@aha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aha)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/27 "2000-04-12T19:06:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by StrTrkr777: > \*\*I been through Okalhoma, don’t remember any sheep, but maybe I was not looking in the right places. > > Well, Ed, if you are ever in Atlanta, drop by for some tea. We can then grab Tuba and some of the other Atlantans and have a real good time. > > Same goes for you Aha and Mrs. Aha. > > Jeffery\*\* Sounds like a plan jeff! * * * They May Put Me In Prison, But They Can’t Stop My Face From Breakin’ Out - famous C&W song \* Yours truly, aha ---
**Author:** ![Whammo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Whammo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whammo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/28 "2000-04-12T19:17:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by WallyM7: > \*\* > I’m not going to be his sig whore without making him pay through the proboscis.\*\* ## Thats right… your the Sig Whore for the common man! **I was sad because I had no shoes, until I saw a snake with no legs.** - Another TRUE Wally original! Accept no substitues! ---
**Author:** ![kellibelli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@kellibelli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kellibelli)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/29 "2000-04-12T21:44:00Z")
Well, that was nice. Very nice example you set there Ed. > [@](#): > > For example, I was reading MPSIMS last night. (I was doing research. Honest, I was.) I stumbled across kellibelli’s lament that her boyfriend (well, her lover, I shouldn’t make assumptions) wouldn’t go down on her. Suddenly, it … all made sense, you know what I’m saying? You are right though…you _shouldnt make assumptions._ I want an apology posted on this board by the time I turn on my computer tomorrow morning thats 830 EST, or I will email this nasty little note of yours to you bosses. This qualifies as sexual harrasment. Look it up. Its one thing to be verbally assaulted by an anonomous troll, but as the ‘boss’ of this place you have a position of authority, and you have created a hostile environment for me based on your sexual comment. You crossed the line ed. ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/30 "2000-04-12T22:07:00Z")
Um…you aren’t employed by Ed or the CR, right, kelli? So it can’t be a hostile _work_ environment. If Ed’s comment was legally sexual harrassment, I guess I could sue the foreman of a contruction company if he shouts something as I walk by. Sorry, Ed’s comment wasn’t sexual harrassment. And as insults go, good Lord, it’s pretty mild. Look at the stuff that regularly gets thrown about. Geez, you should see some of the emails I get from the TM who are displeased with my moderating. I kinda liked Ed showing a bit of personality to the TM. If this makes him never post anything besides official announcements again, I’m going to be pissed. All of the posters here get to spout horrific insults; do you think it would be right to report them to their boss? Or is it only those of us in “positions of authority” who get this sort of threat? Is the next person who doesn’t like my moderating going to report me to my RL boss? Is this the sort of real-life vengeful spitefulness what we want? We allow you guys a long rein to insult us; count all the insults of Ed and the admins and mods in the Pit. But Ed says something about _you_ and you threaten to tell on him to his boss? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/31 "2000-04-12T22:15:00Z")
Oh dear gosh. Are we going to have to go through this kind of stuff again? Let it roll off of your back. Ed sure seems to be coming out of his shell and enjoying the board (finally). Please don’t cast another pall on it by taking offense to something that rates pretty low on the harmless jab meter. * * * We went right out there and refused to do accoustical versions of the electrical songs that we had refused to record in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/32 "2000-04-12T22:21:00Z")
Well, Gaudere, aside from the harrassment issue (and who knows–Canada may have different laws), there’s the issue of slander. Ed DID suggest that Kelli might be a lesbian–not that I think there’s anything wrong with that–but it’s still not exactly cool to say that, especially given his position of power in this message board. Then, of course, there’s that whole new rule thing that Ed brought out. Remember how he said that “Fuck you” is okay, but slander is out? I think Ed is at the very least breaking his own rules here. First warning, Ed. You know, it’s funny. The mods and admin here seem to be able to go around and insult the patrons all they want, but if they don’t get along with one another, there’s hell to pay. You realize that the patrons are the reason why you can even be mods and admins, right? And that every time you insult one of us, you create a hostile environment that, while perhaps not illegal, certainly isn’t inviting. Something to think about… ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/33 "2000-04-12T22:23:00Z")
Well, let’s see Gaudere… Melin was held to a higher standard because she was a moderator. She had a public disagreement with another moderator. She was fired. David B was held to a higher standard because he was a moderator. He was busted as being an interloper on another board. He was severely reprimanded and apologized publicly. Shouldn’t the main administrator of this board be held to a higher standard if the moderators are? * * * Yer pal, Satan [http://www.raleighmusic.com/board/Images/devil.gif](http://www.raleighmusic.com/board/Images/devil.gif) _I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR: Three days, 20 hours, 22 minutes and 55 seconds. 153 cigarettes not smoked, saving $19.24. Life saved: 12 hours, 45 minutes._ ---
**Author:** ![Rodd\_Hill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@Rodd\_Hill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodd_Hill)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/34 "2000-04-12T22:28:00Z")
**StrTkr777** said: > [@](#): > > I been through Okalhoma, don’t remember any sheep… _(singing)_ Ooookalhoma, where the wnid comes sweepgin down the planis… * * * **Swirly Thing alert!!** ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/35 "2000-04-12T22:31:00Z")
OK, maybe I am missing something in the translation here. Where is it insinuated she is a lesbian? How is this slanderous? If she posted something to that effect (which I haven’t found with the search engine), then he would be parroting what she already said. Right? Otherwise, it seems like a pretty normal remark that he was making. Maybe not the best thing he could have typed, but hardly a world class flame, hardly slanderous, and hardly worthy of yet another in the growing line of legal threats. But, I withhold taking an actual stand until I can actually find the thread this is referencing. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/36 "2000-04-12T22:43:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Where is it insinuated she is a lesbian? Um…here? > [@](#): > > I stumbled across kellibelli’s lament that her boyfriend (well, her lover, I shouldn’t make assumptions) And as for how it’s slanderous…well, would you want someone insinuating you like to take it up the ass? I mean, there’s nothing wrong with it, but if it’s untrue, it’s not cool to go around making comments hinting at that, is it? Especially when the person who makes the comments is admin, and apparently has _carte blanche_ to go around calling the patrons of this site anything he wants. As long as Kelli isn’t another moderator, Ed can make whatever rude comments he wants about her. He could do the same to any of us. And that isn’t exactly fair, nor does it make any lurking newbies really want to stick around here when they see they could get the same treatment just for daring to argue with Ed. And while Ed is parroting what Kelli said elsewhere, he’s doing it in order to make a snide comment. See above for why that sucks. Note I’m not making any comment about the legality of what Ed has said. I’m not up on my harrassment law. I do, however, think that Ed is being a real dickhead on this one, and he owes Kelli an apology just because doing so will allow him to regain some semblance of humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/37 "2000-04-12T22:47:00Z")
“He suggested she was a lesbian”? Geez, all he did was not assume she was heterosexual. Libertarian implied I was a gay man sleeping with David B! 😃 Not making assumption about the sex of a person’s partner is simply good netiquitte in most situations. I daresay Ed’s “hostile environment”–which consists of a single swipe at a poster who has consistently complained about him–is less terrifying to our posters than the royal flaming some of them get at the hands of a select few posters. Yet I’m not inclined to pull your teeth and make you all nicey-nice to each other; please extend to us permission to make a less-than-robot-like comment once in a while. We are held to higher standards. I don’t think a hint that kell was in a bad mood because she wasn’t getting oral sex is outrageous, particularly when kell posted about it in the first place. How often do you see a Mod bitching at a poster for 300 posts, like Ed gets every time he does something unpopular? I don’t recall any Mod-started flame-threads. When we get out of line, Ed tells us to stop; if we don’t obey, we’re canned. That simple. I am _seriously_ concerned about kell’s threat to go to Ed’s boss. Can you really say this is fair? Are you going to report me to _my_ boss if I hint that you’re not “getting any”? ---
**Author:** ![SingleDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@SingleDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleDad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/38 "2000-04-12T22:49:00Z")
**kellibelli:** I’m not sure what you’re objecting to. That Ed brought up your lover’s oral shortcomings? I searched a bit and didn’t come up with the specific cite, but presumably Ed didn’t make this up out of whole cloth. And you did mention that oral sex was a hobby of yours. Of course, if he _did_ make it up, then it was pretty tasteless and he should apologize. Are you upset that Ed didn’t assume you were heterosexual? I think that to disclaim an unwarranted assumption is in no way harrassing, slanderous or even objectionable. In fact, given that both sexual orientations are equally respectable, the disclaimer seems _de rigour_. I think that several of our friends here would be somewhat peeved if someone _did_ assume they were heterosexual. Ed does say that he doesn’t spend a lot of time on MPSIMS, and his ignorance is understandable; he’s just trying to be sensitive. What “higher standard” do you want to hold Ed to? Not mentioning sexual topics previously discussed _publicly_ in our community? Did I miss a turn and we all suddenly became prudes? Did he violate some standard by implying that lamenting your lover’s shortcomings is the essense of MPSIMS? I certainly don’t find the subject objectionable, but I would certainly be surprised to find it in any _other_ forum. Please enlighten me. There’s a lot of righteous indignation being tossed around, and I’m honestly not understanding it. I’ve offered the above analysis not as a refutation of your points, but to show you where I’m coming from. I’m really asking with all due respect. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/39 "2000-04-12T22:51:00Z")
**Mullinator,** the quote we’re all talking about occurs in this very thread (in this very room!), at 11:03 a.m. Scroll up. \<\<\< OH, NO, now Mullinator’s gonna sue my butt, I told him to “scroll up”! :eek: \>\>\> **Kelli,** sweetie, my mom used to tell me, “Be glad when the other kids tease you; it’s better to be teased than to be ignored.” I see that your post time says 4:44 p.m. – can we maybe just (pretty please?) chalk this all up to an end-of-the-day biorhythm slump, and drop it? I read the thing, and I don’t think Ed meant to be insulting, or to imply that you were possibly a lesbian, and I’m the most militantly PC anti-harassment person I know. I’ve made bigger targets than Ed very nervous, OK? (Don’t worry, Ed, I come in peace. 🙂 ) Believe me, this ain’t worth the hassle, hon. * * * “Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast!” - the White Queen ---
**Author:** ![Whammo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Whammo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whammo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2000, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859/40 "2000-04-12T22:54:00Z")
You people are acting pathetic and childish, obviously there is some long standing feud that I have managed to avoid but still. The opinion poll has dropped more then a few points. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ed-zotti/15859.md?page=3)