# Edgar Wright out as Ant-Man director

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**Created:** [May 24, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144 "2014-05-24T01:29:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/1 "2014-05-24T01:29:41Z")

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According to [The Wrap](http://www.thewrap.com/edgar-wright-exits-marvels-ant-man/), who quoted a Marvel press release.

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> “Marvel and Edgar Wright jointly announced today that the studio and director have parted ways on ANT-MAN due to differences in their vision of the film,” a statement read. “The decision to move on is amicable and does not impact the release date on July 17, 2015. A new director will be announced shortly.”

That’s too bad. I love Edgar Wright’s films (especially **Shaun of the Dead** and **Scott Pilgrim** ) and I’m a total Marvel films fangirl so the thought of the two together was exciting for me. Marvel hasn’t made a bad movie yet (to me) so I still have high hopes, especially since Joe Cornish, who is a god, wrote the screenplay, but it’s sad.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/2 "2014-05-24T01:52:45Z")

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That blows. I like his work, too.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/3 "2014-05-24T02:21:33Z")

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This could be Marvel’s first big mistake, depending on which way you look at it.

Either hiring Edgar Wright in the first place was the mistake, as many of the choices made for Phase 3 of Marvel’s development was dependent on what Ant-Man was going to do.

Or firing such a drawcard director as Edgar was the mistake, as he has been talking up this movie for literally years, angling for the job, bringing to an obscure character’s movie all his built-in fan-base. Losing access to his uncanny directing skills may be the key mistake, there’s almost nobody else out there like him.

This is a movie that would have ordinarily struggled to find an audience without Edgar Wright helming. And now it _is_ without Edgar Wright helming. A lot of fans are rapidly losing interest, so there will have to be a lot of canny marketing and BTS moves to win them back.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/4 "2014-05-24T03:37:05Z")

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I like Edgar Wright but I always thought this was an odd pairing.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/5 "2014-05-24T04:13:32Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I like Edgar Wright but I always thought this was an odd pairing.

Wright was one of the more mainstream choices they’ve made in the Marvel series. Jon Favreau, for example, was known for comedies like _Made_ and _Elf_ - he had never directed an action movie before _Iron Man_. Kenneth Branagh and Ang Lee are better known for prestige dramas rather than comic book movies. And Alan Taylor was pretty much an unknown indie director.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/6 "2014-05-24T05:04:51Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I like Edgar Wright but I always thought this was an odd pairing.

Yeah, who’d hire a director whose most famous works are fantastic adventure/comedies featuring not-entirely-sympathetic, yet still somehow likeable protagonists to direct a fantastic adventure-comedy featuring a not-entirely-sympathetic, yet somehow still likeable protagonist?

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/7 "2014-05-24T05:40:44Z")

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It crossed my mind that since Wright is out, Cornish might be out too, since the two are such close friends, but if Cornish is out, they’d have to get a whole new script. Since they clim the release date is not going to be affected, they’re obviously sticking with Cornish’s script. The “creative differences” wouldn’t have to do with the script, unless they’ve brought in a re-write team, which which would surely piss off Wright and Cornish.

It occurred to me that, assuming they’ve left the script alone, another director might come in and fuck with it, which would piss off Cornish. Getting Cornish to direct his own script is probably not going to happen, because that would make it too much a Cornish movie, and Marvel seems to avoid having writers and directors too closely identified with the movies, even if they’re well-known. I had even forgotten that Jon Faverau directed Iron Man (btw, everyone should see his back-to-his-roots movie Chef. It’s not only a good movie, if you like food movies like Big Night for instance, Chef will make you drool). And besides, Cornish is even weirder than Wright so he might have the same types of creative differences. If Wright doesn’t have the clout to get his vision onscreen, the obscure Cornish surely won’t. (for those who don’t know, and some might not, Joe Cornish wrote and directed my favorite film from a few years ago, Attack The Block.)

I don’t generally keep up with celebrity/movie gossip, I just saw this because it was on Yahoo’s front page. If anyone sees any articles about what might have happened, please post.

Maybe I should go read Edgar Wright’s Twitter feed.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/8 "2014-05-24T06:39:37Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Maybe I should go read Edgar Wright’s Twitter feed.

He’s keeping quiet. All we have is [this tweet](https://twitter.com/simonpegg/status/470075578096168960) from Simon Pegg, which may be interpreted in a particular way, but is just as likely transparent.

[QUOTE=Simon Pegg]  
Incredibly proud of my friend Edgar Wright, this morning as I am always.  
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/9 "2014-05-24T06:45:44Z")

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Uh oh, sounds like they tried to fuck with him and he said fuck you back. Sigh, I would see the movie anyway, but the involvement of Wright and Cornish had my expectations up way high. I should mention that I’d never even heard of ANT-MAN until I read that Cornish was writing the screenplay.

Thanks for checking GuanoLad.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/10 "2014-05-24T06:57:01Z")

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I was just thinking yesterday that Joe Cornish would be good as one of the directors of the spin-off _Star Wars_ films, as yesterday Gareth Edwards (of _Godzilla_ fame) was given the job for the first.

I’m not sure if this development would rule that out.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/11 "2014-05-24T07:13:39Z")

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I heard that ATB’s Moses, John Boyega, will be in the new Star Wars but I’m trying to stay away from spoilers, so I don’t know who he plays. I hope it’s a good role for him.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/12 "2014-05-24T10:37:42Z")

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Joss Whedon just posted [this](https://twitter.com/josswhedon/status/470141319831363584). A sign of solidarity, perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/13 "2014-05-24T11:48:51Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Joss Whedon just posted [this](https://twitter.com/josswhedon/status/470141319831363584). A sign of solidarity, perhaps?

…okay: that makes sense. I saw Joss post that and it made no sense at all. Now it does. Thanks for clearing that up!

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/14 "2014-05-24T12:09:52Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Joss Whedon just posted [this](https://twitter.com/josswhedon/status/470141319831363584). A sign of solidarity, perhaps?

…couldn’t be anything but.

This twist will have layers. Wright isn’t a nobody. Wonder how it will be discussed. Whoever steps in will have an interesting time.

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/15 "2014-05-24T12:57:21Z")

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Shame. Before I heard about Ant-Man I was thinking Edgar Wright could do a great Marvel film. I’d be interested to hear the differences in vision.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/16 "2014-05-24T14:45:19Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Wright was one of the more mainstream choices they’ve made in the Marvel series. Jon Favreau, for example, was known for comedies like _Made_ and _Elf_ - he had never directed an action movie before _Iron Man_. Kenneth Branagh and Ang Lee are better known for prestige dramas rather than comic book movies. And Alan Taylor was pretty much an unknown indie director.

Ang Lee’s movie sucked because he tried to make it too stylized. The others mentioned don’t have a signature style that is obvious when watching their films. Wright has a very specific style which I thought would conflict with the genre. I thought it would turn into more of a Wright movie rather than a superhero movie. If that were the case he would be better off doing what he was doing before. Unless Marvel wanted to do a parody which I doubt they are. They don’t want a Green Hornet. There was no way to know if my feelings were correct without seeing the finished product but it seems more likely now that I am.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/17 "2014-05-24T15:42:22Z")

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An **Ant-Man** movie?! Seriously?!

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/18 "2014-05-24T17:15:57Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Ang Lee’s movie sucked because he tried to make it too stylized. The others mentioned don’t have a signature style that is obvious when watching their films. Wright has a very specific style which I thought would conflict with the genre. I thought it would turn into more of a Wright movie rather than a superhero movie. If that were the case he would be better off doing what he was doing before. Unless Marvel wanted to do a parody which I doubt they are. They don’t want a Green Hornet. There was no way to know if my feelings were correct without seeing the finished product but it seems more likely now that I am.

I read this post in the Guardians of the Galaxy thread, and I must say, the idea really appeals to me:

> [@Marvel fans...break down Guardians of the Galaxy for me](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/marvel-fans-break-down-guardians-of-the-galaxy-for-me/686442/8):
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> If I’m reading the tea leaves correctly, Marvel Studios is going to do a very clever thing, and make movies within the same universe, BUT not make all of them be straight up superhero movies, per se. Guardians of the Galaxy looks like it’s going to be a looser comedy/action piece. If Black Widow gets here own movie, it will probably be closer to a Jason Bourne movie than anything else.
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> So while it will tie in to the Avengers and be consistent in terms of canon, it doesn’t have to be stylistically consistent.

I’d love to see a Marvel film with a lot of Edgar Wright in it, and if he’s a half-decent director he’ll be able to make something that’s clearly a Wright film without being all him.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/19 "2014-05-24T18:49:26Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> An **Ant-Man** movie?! Seriously?!

Sure. There was a bit there when the character was sort of cool/interesting (when they introduced Scott Lang and tied him in with Iron Man). One of the interesting things about comics is when someone takes a languishing minor character or book and realizes it’s potential. The X-Men was practically dead when Marvel put two no-names on it because the company had nothing to lose; Daredevil as well. Ant-man could be a good movie in the right hands. I mean, it’s not Iron Fist…

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edgar-wright-out-as-ant-man-director/689144/20 "2014-05-24T19:56:13Z")

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i have no way of knowing if this is a legit scoop, or just hearsay bullshit, but there was this article this morning.

[http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-the-inside-story-on-the-divorce-between-marvel-edgar-wright-over-ant-man](http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-the-inside-story-on-the-divorce-between-marvel-edgar-wright-over-ant-man)

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