# "Edna Cintron" standing in World Trade Center on 9-11 **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 6, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801 "2009-10-06T12:08:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/1 "2009-10-06T12:08:40Z")
So what’s the deal [here](http://www.reopen911.org/ReOpen911_2007Archive/images/womaninholelarge.jpg)?I can’t seem to find anything anywhere explaining how [this](http://thewebfairy.com/911/edna/2seconds.htm)is possible. Her name is said to be Edna Cintron and she’s just standing there in the picture and waving in the video. How would she have gotten there? Isn’t it hot as hell in there? I wouldn’t expect there to be much floor inside to walk across, but I of course really have no idea. I was hoping for this to be mentioned in the Popular Mechanics myth debunking book, but I just got it and after searching the index, there’s nothing in the book about this. ---
**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/2 "2009-10-06T12:55:05Z")
Well, it answers itself: The spot she was at was not too hot. Fire was deeper inside and affecting/cooking everything above. Being near fresh air, with the conditions inside too hot (esp farther in and up), made it survivable. ---
**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/3 "2009-10-06T13:03:28Z")
> [@Philster](#): > > Well, it answers itself: The spot she was at was not too hot. Fire was deeper inside and affecting/cooking everything above. Being near fresh air, with the conditions inside too hot (esp farther in and up), made it survivable. Fair enough. Just thought it was odd that I can generally find some sort of explanation for any “evidence” that the theorists come up with. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/4 "2009-10-06T13:08:04Z")
> [@Shig](#): > > So what’s the deal [here](http://www.reopen911.org/ReOpen911_2007Archive/images/womaninholelarge.jpg)?I can’t seem to find anything anywhere explaining > [@Shig](#): > > I was hoping for this to be mentioned in the Popular Mechanics myth debunking book, but I just got it and after searching the index, there’s nothing in the book about this. _In general,_ any news item or image that allegedly “proves” something, that you see in only one or a very few places, _especially places with a specific agenda,_ is a hoax or deception. This isn’t always the case, but it’s so prevalent that whenever I see something like that, I usually just raise an eyebrow and move on, assuming that if it’s real I will hear more about it in other sources soon. Remember, the 9/11 conspiracy people are wrong _even if it turns out the government actually did do it as part of a conspiracy,_ because they insist on spreading counterfactual lies like “steel cannot melt.” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/5 "2009-10-06T13:43:17Z")
> [@Shig](#): > > Her name is said to be Edna Cintron and she’s just standing there in the picture and waving in the video. How would she have gotten there? Isn’t it hot as hell in there? I wouldn’t expect there to be much floor inside to walk across, but I of course really have no idea. Just a WAG - but she’s relatively low in relation to the blaze behind her. Hot air rises. Cold air rushes in to replace that hot air. There might have been a sufficient current of relatively cool air sweeping over her location which enabled her to survive. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/6 "2009-10-06T13:53:57Z")
This [website](http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/06/for-sheila-casey.html) shows pictures of the other side of the building (i.e., where the plane came to rest), burning heavily. Basically, what hit Cintron’s side of the building kept going. That site also attaches a picture of Ms. Cintron jumping to her death. WARNING: Disturbing images. ---
**Author:** ![Shig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Shig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shig)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/7 "2009-10-06T13:54:04Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Just a WAG - but she’s relatively low in relation to the blaze behind her. Hot air rises. Cold air rushes in to replace that hot air. There might have been a sufficient current of relatively cool air sweeping over her location which enabled her to survive. I understand that. It’s just that the location she’s at is where the plain hit. I admittedly know nothing in regards to what it was like in there, it just seems to me that getting to where she’s at wouldn’t be possible, because a big fuckin’ plane hit there haha! She’s obviously there though. Just thought maybe someone had more of an explanation or something… I dunno. The damn theorists use this as some sort of BS proof that the fire wasn’t hot or something equally retarded. And yes, I actually saw on a site where someone said something along the lines of “if there was fire there, it couldn’t have been very hot.” HAHAHA. It’s like they’re saying that there may have been fire there but it wasn’t hot enough to hurt somebody. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/8 "2009-10-06T14:04:39Z")
I guess her choice was jump or burn to death? I assume she looked around and could find no way around the fire to get to the stairs - assuming the stairs were not destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/9 "2009-10-06T15:05:58Z")
If, at the time the plane hit, she happened to be near that outer wall it is possible that the wreckage went over her (perhaps she ducked as well, we’ll never know), thus leaving her at the location she was photographed. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/edna-cintron-standing-in-world-trade-center-on-9-11/512801/10 "2009-10-06T15:09:53Z")
Well, obviously she wasn’t there when the plane hit. She found a way to get to that place (below where the fire was fiercest) afterwards, but before the tower fell. What is so difficult for these conspiracy numbskulls to understand? ☹