# Educator Dopers what's up with K-12 education, NCLB etc under the new administration? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 28, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/educator-dopers-whats-up-with-k-12-education-nclb-etc-under-the-new-administration/483372 "2009-01-28T12:07:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/educator-dopers-whats-up-with-k-12-education-nclb-etc-under-the-new-administration/483372/1 "2009-01-28T12:07:55Z")
Any of you pedagogical dopers heard any rumblings of what’s up under the new administration? Any major changes in store? ---
**Author:** ![Cowboy8467](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Cowboy8467](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowboy8467)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/educator-dopers-whats-up-with-k-12-education-nclb-etc-under-the-new-administration/483372/2 "2009-01-28T19:57:43Z")
Everybody is in a bit of a holding pattern right now, waiting to see what the new administration is going to come up with. I suspect that the basic framework of NCLB is going to be kept in place with some minor tweaks here and there. A lot of people think of it as being Bush’s thing, but it had bi-partisan support when it was signed. Oh I work for the Department of Education by the way. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/educator-dopers-whats-up-with-k-12-education-nclb-etc-under-the-new-administration/483372/3 "2009-01-28T20:04:08Z")
Hoping it dies a quick death, but not expecting it to. At this point, we’re more concerned with the budget. ---
**Author:** ![PopeJewish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@PopeJewish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PopeJewish)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/educator-dopers-whats-up-with-k-12-education-nclb-etc-under-the-new-administration/483372/4 "2009-01-29T00:58:56Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Hoping it dies a quick death, but not expecting it to. At this point, we’re more concerned with the budget. werd NCLB reminds me too much of the Japanese education system, everything geared towards a test that has no real bearing on reality but determines everything about a child’s worth (in terms of what school he/she can go to). The Japanese education system sucks (as exemplified by an entire country of people who’ve taken a minimum of 6 years of English yet most can’t speak a lick) ---
**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/educator-dopers-whats-up-with-k-12-education-nclb-etc-under-the-new-administration/483372/5 "2009-01-29T03:11:32Z")
> [@PopeJewish](#): > > werd > > NCLB reminds me too much of the Japanese education system, everything geared towards a test that has no real bearing on reality but determines everything about a child’s worth (in terms of what school he/she can go to). The Japanese education system sucks (as exemplified by an entire country of people who’ve taken a minimum of 6 years of English yet most can’t speak a lick) I don’t think we should conflate the suckiness of English education here with a failing of the entire system. Oh, and NCLB can suck it. ---
**Author:** ![PopeJewish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@PopeJewish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PopeJewish)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/educator-dopers-whats-up-with-k-12-education-nclb-etc-under-the-new-administration/483372/6 "2009-01-29T06:20:57Z")
> [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](#): > > I don’t think we should conflate the suckiness of English education here with a failing of the entire system. > > Oh, and NCLB can suck it. This is true, but the system is generally pretty bad in general from my observations.