# Egotistical New Yorkers!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 16, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273 "2005-11-16T05:55:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rodgers01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@Rodgers01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodgers01)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/21 "2005-11-16T09:11:04Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That’s exactly why I used the word “security.” It’s not a boast and it’s not confrontational. The “it’s never occurred to them” idea sounds more like projection than anything else. But…no. It’s like a mother who is convinced that her kid is the greatest thing God ever created, and she won’t stop telling you how smart, how talented, how simply wonderful her little darling is. She doesn’t mean it to put down the other kids, and the kid may indeed be very bright and talented, but after hearing about it non-stop you just want to smack the mother, tell her to cool her jets, and get a little perspective. Even though it’s not meant to be confrontational, it almost ends up that way. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/22 "2005-11-16T12:39:09Z")
You’re just jealous because of how awesome we are. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/23 "2005-11-16T13:34:17Z")
> [@Rodgers01](#): > > A lot of nasty things are thrown around about New Yorkers by people who don’t know better – they’ve been called rude, criminal, dirty, loud, pushy, overbearing, crazy, egotistical. Hey, I resemble that remark! See my location? Guess where I’m from (born and bred). 🆒 Pistols at dawn for pitting **me** (yeah, a little more egotism thrown in for good measure). ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/24 "2005-11-16T13:59:15Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > You’re just jealous because of how awesome we are. Dude, you live in Queens. Does that even count? 😉 [sub]Waiting for someone to tell me that the Upper East is too quiet/boring to really be city living.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/25 "2005-11-16T14:02:58Z")
> [@Rodgers01](#): > > I can’t find the link, but the Guardian recently published a link of the 50 best restaurants in the world, and 14 of them were in the UK (and presumably the majority of those were in London). How many different recipes could there possibly be for toad-in-the-hole? When New Yorkers refer to “the city”, they actually mean Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/26 "2005-11-16T14:06:44Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Dude, you live in Queens. Does that even count? 😉 > > [sub]Waiting for someone to tell me that the Upper East is too quiet/boring to really be city living.[/sub] Oh, shit, dude. You don’t wanna go there. Me and my homies will kick your ass in so many languages you’ll think you’ve been on vacation for _years_. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/27 "2005-11-16T14:16:25Z")
Well, it’s a good thing we New Yorkers don’t give a fuck about what you think, \*\*Rodgers01 \*\*, or we’d all have our feelings hurt right about now. But since we’re all so egotistical, what _you_ think is moot, stupid and besides the point. Lucky ole, Rodg-- you can post here on this board and have so many New Yorkers deign to respond. ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/28 "2005-11-16T14:22:29Z")
What is this incessant boasting I keep seeing here? I’ve lived here 45 of my 46 years and have never heard this other than a few stupid soundbites on TV. Have you been to New York? Are you claiming that you walked around and people came up to you unsolicited bragging about the greatness of New York? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/29 "2005-11-16T14:27:43Z")
It IS an overweaning pride and a smug assumption that everyone feels the same way that bugs me so much about New York. Yeah-it’s nice–parts of it, anyway. Yeah-it’s got great museums–but not the greatest ones on Earth. London beats NY with one hand tied behind its back and blindfolded. Yeah-it’s food is good–but can’t hold a candle to Paris in terms of cafe ambience and consistent quality of entree. I live near Chicago–and I am glad for our “second city” status–life here is not so arrogant or smug. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/30 "2005-11-16T14:28:54Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > you can post here on this board and have so many New Yorkers deign to respond. Feh, I can’t be bothered. Too busy booking opera tickets and looking at all the Picassos in MOMA. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/31 "2005-11-16T14:41:53Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Dude, you live in Queens. Does that even count? 😉 > > [sub]Waiting for someone to tell me that the Upper East is too quiet/boring to really be city living.[/sub] Now that’s just mean. I’m not waiting until dawn for you…drive-by tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/32 "2005-11-16T14:47:26Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > “New York is the greatest” - of course people in New York feel like that - doesn’t imply “everywhere else sucks.” It does the way some people say it. I don’t think that it’s an endemic New Yorker problem, but I have met one or two really pretentious knobs who acted like going to school in Boston was like being exiled to the island of Elba. But it’s natural for people to be proud of their home towns. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/33 "2005-11-16T14:52:55Z")
I lived in NY all my life until a few months ago, and only now do I understand what a special place it is. I moved to SF, and it’s a nice city and all, but it just seems so _small_. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/34 "2005-11-16T14:53:10Z")
I’ve never been to New York. I have no special fondness for the place. I have zero desire to live there. I’m tired of all the sitcoms, movies, etc. being set in New York. I agree that some New Yorkers are overly impressed by how special their city is and how special they are for being there. There are plenty of places that score way higher than NY on all sorts of scales. That said, I think New York does have a legitimate claim to being the greatest city on earth. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/35 "2005-11-16T14:54:40Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > It IS an overweaning pride and a smug assumption that everyone feels the same way that bugs me so much about New York. > > Yeah-it’s nice–parts of it, anyway. Yeah-it’s got great museums–but not the greatest ones on Earth. London beats NY with one hand tied behind its back and blindfolded. > > Yeah-it’s food is good–but can’t hold a candle to Paris in terms of cafe ambience and consistent quality of entree. > > I live near Chicago–and I am glad for our “second city” status–life here is not so arrogant or smug. London and Paris? London and Paris! Feh! They’re like athletes who hang on long past their prime _(see: Vinnie Testaverde)_. They’re done. They’re washed up. They’re lucky if they’ve got one good game left in them. They should just retire; they’re only a drag on the real global star. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/36 "2005-11-16T15:03:51Z")
Americans have just got this pride thing going on; that’s all. \< d & r \> ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/37 "2005-11-16T15:20:38Z")
I kid because I love… Anyway, in another couple of months, I’m going to move to… New Jersey \ ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/38 "2005-11-16T15:30:49Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > Some other city comes up with as prolific a genius as that who digs, say, Texarkana, I’m sure we’ll all be clamoring to go there too. As someone who was born and raised in Texarkana, I can tell you that’ll never happen. Even Carl Finch ( **Brave Combo** , grammy winning polka band) barely mentions he’s from there when he _plays_ Texarkana. Anybody with talent is clamoring to _leave_ and isn’t singing its praises. Does Ross Perot mention it? Did Scott Joplin write a “Texarkana Rag”? Did Joshua Logan direct a broadway show about the Phantom Killer in the Town that Dreaded Sundown? It does, however, have an abundance of really good burger joints. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/39 "2005-11-16T15:33:23Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Me and my homies will kick your ass in so many languages you’ll think you’ve been on vacation for _years_. I didn’t realize various Greek dialects counted as different languages now. > [@BwanaBob](#): > > Are you claiming that you walked around and people came up to you unsolicited bragging about the greatness of New York? Happens to me all the time when I’m up there. You’ll have some guido in a half-butttoned silk shirt, a wife beater underneath and a giant gold cross come walk up to you and say, “Yo, New Ywork is da greatest, yo. Let’s get some cwawfee.” ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/40 "2005-11-16T15:37:01Z")
This thread keeps reminding me of perhaps the [worst commercial I’ve ever seen](http://www.mylifemycard.com/commercials/spot5/index.html) (video on linked page). Mostly because a) I can’t believe that they invoked 9/11 to sell a fucking credit card and b) I can’t believe de Niro actually stooped to this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273.md?page=3)