# Egotistical New Yorkers!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 16, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273 "2005-11-16T05:55:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/81 "2005-11-16T20:01:32Z")
> [@Cemetery Savior](#): > > Whomever referred to KC as a dull Midwestern town…you’re right. Add Des Moines, Cleveland, and 90% of the other places as well. Milwaukee…nice place, reminds me of Chicago, really. Cincy’s not too bad, and Minneapolis is good, too. Oh, come on, Cleveland’s much cooler than Cincinnati. (But not as cool as Chicago.) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/82 "2005-11-16T20:01:40Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > I think it’s sickening how every single politician has to make the point that we’re the greatest. It’s absolutely disgusting. > > So, my fellow Americans, yes, we come from a great country. Now just shut up about it already. I don’t like to hear politicians say these things because it’s such empty pandering. I suppose my feelings about New York have fewer qualifiers than my feelings about America. > [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Dude, the one thing I learned was ‘Never call it Frisco’. The natives hated that, as of the mid-90s. [Oh, they hated it well before that.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton#Decrees) > [@Emperor Norton I](#): > > Whoever after due and proper warning shall be heard to utter the abominable word “Frisco,” which has no linguistic or other warrant, shall be deemed guilty of a High Misdemeanor, and shall pay into the Imperial Treasury as penalty the sum of twenty-five dollars. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/83 "2005-11-16T20:13:02Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Having spent a dozen years on The Island before returning to _Queens! Baby!_, I feel that I am in a good position to answer your question. Yes, you are Chopped Liver. Sorry, but thems the facts and all that. > > If I’m going to be accused of being egotistical, I might as well play it up! and we all know the BEST chopped liver comes from \*\*Ben’s \*\* which started on The Island ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/84 "2005-11-16T20:15:25Z")
> [@AndyPolley](#): > > Hey now! We’re all about tooting the NY horn here. The problem is that the Island doesn’t get any press unless it’s an Amy Fisher kind of crazy story. > > Queens is just the western part of LonGuyland. You’re as much of a city person as my Suffolk County ass. Accept it, **D\_Odds** …_embrace_ it. Oh…and where do you get off dissing Long Island’s own Vinny Testeverde? You rapscallion! > > I think you & I should have a fist fight. Then we should have a few beers and make fun of cities that aren’t New York. 🙂 I got your back, **AndyPolley** ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/85 "2005-11-16T20:24:26Z")
> [@](#): > > New Yorkers are the most **egotistical** people on earth. Personally, I prefer the adjective _provincial_. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/86 "2005-11-16T20:27:10Z")
> [@AndyPolley](#): > > Hey now! We’re all about tooting the NY horn here. The problem is that the Island doesn’t get any press unless it’s an Amy Fisher kind of crazy story. Don’t forget Joel Rifkin. And…uh…uh…nevermind. > [@AndyPolley](#): > > Queens is just the western part of LonGuyland. You’re as much of a city person as my Suffolk County ass. Accept it, **D\_Odds** …_embrace_ it. Oh…and where do you get off dissing Long Island’s own Vinny Testeverde? You rapscallion! Jealousy, pure and simple. While I’ll admit there are parts of Queens that try to emulate LonGuyland, those parts are not the real Queens. > [@AndyPolley](#): > > I think you & I should have a fist fight. Then we should have a few beers and make fun of cities that aren’t New York. 🙂 First we have to fight over where to have the beers…Manhattan, Queens or ‘The Island’. Then we fight over which is better. Then we fight over which city is the biggest NYC wannabe (given every city is a NYC wannabe - the rest of youz guyz can just own up and admit it - we already know). At no point, however, should we stop drinking beers. _(Full disclosure: I am a NY Islanders fan)_ ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/87 "2005-11-16T20:30:21Z")
> [@Amazon Floozy Goddess](#): > > I mean, just how great can a smelly, crowded, crime-ridden city be? No offense to any NYers who think this, but come on. Sure, it has a rightful claim to being a great city for many reasons. But the greatest? Yeah, right. I doubt _any_ city could really claim that. NYC is the SAFEST large city in the US. That means we have the least crime. You can walk through the park at night. The movie The Warriors was not a documentary. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/88 "2005-11-16T20:40:58Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > While I’ll admit there are parts of Queens that try to emulate LonGuyland, those parts are not the real Queens. There are those who say that Nassau County has become NYC’s 6th borough So are they imitating NYC or is Queens imitating LI? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/89 "2005-11-16T20:53:58Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > NYC is the SAFEST large city in the US. That means we have the least crime. You can walk through the park at night. The movie The Warriors was not a documentary. "Warriors, come out to play-i-ay. " What about _Escape From New York_? Does that accurately represent the pre-Guilliani Manhattan? I mean, it did have a “Chock Full O’ Nuts” store and all. (Trivia note: many of the exterior shots were filmed in East St. Louis, and needed little in the way of set dressing to achieve that low-budget post-apocalyptic look. Motto: “East St. Louis: The City of Burning Cars.” Sister city: Beruit. Primary industry: Methamphetamine.) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/90 "2005-11-16T21:03:09Z")
> [@anyrose](#): > > I got your back, AndyPolley Thanks, **Anyrose**. If we ever get LI Dopers together for beer & munchies, the first round’s on me. > [@D\_Odds](#): > > Jealousy, pure and simple. The only thing I’m jealous of is that you have a not entirely unpleasant commute to Shea Stadium. \*(Full disclosure: NY Mets fan) \* > [@D\_Odds](#): > > First we have to fight over where to have the beers…Manhattan, Queens or ‘The Island’. Then we fight over which is better. Then we fight over which city is the biggest NYC wannabe (given every city is a NYC wannabe - the rest of youz guyz can just own up and admit it - we already know). At no point, however, should we stop drinking beers. I certainly could not have said this better. Perhaps we should have those beers at the Garden during an Islanders/Rangers game. Then, when we tire of fighting each other, we can join forces and fight Ranger fans. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/91 "2005-11-16T21:13:29Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > NYC is the SAFEST large city in the US. That means we have the least crime. You can walk through the park at night. The movie The Warriors was not a documentary. Is no _longer_ a documentary. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/92 "2005-11-16T21:19:08Z")
I know what the OP means. I remember Sandra Bullock appearing on The Daily Show not too long ago; she was talking about Austin and describing a local barbecue place. She started to say, “It’s about 20 miles outside the city…” and Jon snickered and said something like, “You call it the city, how quaint.” She just gave him a perplexed “How dumb can you be?” look and went on, and generally I really like Jon, but it was such a shining example of New York provincialism, I was embarrassed for him. Then there’s Letterman pushing the greatest city motto every other night. Makes one wonder where the inferiority complex comes from. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/93 "2005-11-16T21:32:51Z")
> [@Troy McClure SF](#): > > San Fran’s OK. Ess Eff’s OK. The City’s as far north as Santa Rosa, east to, well, Reno & Calaveras County, and south to Monterey. This is news to me. I thought The City was strictly the County and City of San Francisco. > [@](#): > > I never knew it was supposed to be derogatory… I just use it as a friendly nudge to the people I know from around there. I did hear somewhere that ‘Frisco’ was attaining some acceptability, much in the same way that psychiatrists or psychologists don’t like to be called shrinks, except by by one another. Another reason was the mechanism by which a derogatory or disliked term is adopted as a badge of defiance. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/94 "2005-11-16T22:45:45Z")
Crap. I meant when you’r ewithin Santa Rosa/Reno/Monterey, saying “the City” refers to the C&C of SF. Unless you’re from one of the suburbs. People from Daly City to Redwood City to Walnut Creek to Tiburon claim to be from “San Francisco,” so much so that when my friend went to UC Riverside and said he was from SF, everyone asked, “yeah, but what city?” ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/95 "2005-11-16T22:50:45Z")
Uhm…another City sighting/citing today. Went up to the DMV in downtown Yonkers (where I am, it’s closer than the one in my own borough) and took a walk along the revitalizing waterfront. Fell into a conversation with a born and bred Yonkerite about the new apartment complexes springing up all over and he said one of the selling points is that they’re right next to the train station and “people take it right into the City.” FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/96 "2005-11-16T23:03:56Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > Uhm…another City sighting/citing today. Went up to the DMV in downtown Yonkers (where I am, it’s closer than the one in my own borough) and took a walk along the revitalizing waterfront. Fell into a conversation with a born and bred Yonkerite about the new apartment complexes springing up all over and he said one of the selling points is that they’re right next to the train station and “people take it right into the City.” > > FWIW. Extra Ironic because if you dropped Yonkers into Iowa it would be a big city. Population is 196,086. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/97 "2005-11-16T23:54:31Z")
The thing about NYC is that if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![mischievous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mischievous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mischievous)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/98 "2005-11-17T01:14:39Z")
While I’m very much on the “it’s my city, take it or leave it” bandwagon, I’m confused by the examples offered by the OP. One is a children’s movie of no particular import, one is a history of New York, one is a New York public official. It’s entirely appropriate for the latter two to be publically praising the city - it’s their raison d’etre. So what the fuck is the problem? mischievous ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/99 "2005-11-17T01:15:10Z")
Lets all sing it" Start spreading the news, I’m leaving today. I want to be a part of it - New York, New York. … [Link to rest](http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/newyorknewyork/themefromnewyorknewyork.htm) Jim ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/100 "2005-11-17T01:18:39Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > I remember Sandra Bullock appearing on The Daily Show not too long ago; she was talking about Austin and describing a local barbecue place. She started to say, “It’s about 20 miles outside the city…” and Jon snickered and said something like, “You call it the city, how quaint.” She just gave him a perplexed “How dumb can you be?” look and went on, and generally I really like Jon, but it was such a shining example of New York provincialism, I was embarrassed for him. Now, I only watch The Daily Show once or twice a day, so I may not know what I’m talking about here, but he might’ve been joking. :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273.md?page=6)