# Egotistical New Yorkers!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 16, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273 "2005-11-16T05:55:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/101 "2005-11-17T01:21:51Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Now, I only watch The Daily Show once or twice a day, so I may not know what I’m talking about here, but he might’ve been joking. :rolleyes: Well you know that “sofasticated” City Humor must have gone over some peoples heads. 😉 Jim ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/102 "2005-11-17T22:26:16Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > I know what the OP means. I remember Sandra Bullock appearing on The Daily Show not too long ago; she was talking about Austin and describing a local barbecue place. She started to say, “It’s about 20 miles outside the city…” and Jon snickered and said something like, “You call it the city, how quaint.” She just gave him a perplexed “How dumb can you be?” look and went on, and generally I really like Jon, but it was such a shining example of New York provincialism, I was embarrassed for him. > . It may suprise you to learn this, but Jon Stewart has not lived in New York City his whole life. For example, he got his BA at The College Of William & Mary, located in Williamsburg, VA, a bustling town of 1 movie theater and approximately 4 Jews. So at the very least, he has experienced life in (what was then) rural Virginia. So don’t accuse him of never having traveled west of the Hudson. I’ve lived a lot of places other than New York City – Manhattan, KS; Wiliamsburg VA; Ann Arbor, MI; central Virginia, and even Bulgaria for a couple of months. That I choose not to return to The City at this time in my life does not remove the fact that it is the Greatest City on Earth and the Capitol of Everyithing. London’s not so great, really. It’s just NYC with a subway that _closes_ Weak! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/103 "2005-11-17T22:36:20Z")
In fact he was raised Lawrenceville, New Jersey and I think he lives here again. Jim ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/104 "2005-11-17T22:49:11Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Now, I only watch The Daily Show once or twice a day, so I may not know what I’m talking about here, but he might’ve been joking. :rolleyes: Great, but I watch the show every day, too, and I can assure you it wasn’t. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/105 "2005-11-18T00:03:50Z")
> [@Troy McClure SF](#): > > Crap. I meant when you’r ewithin Santa Rosa/Reno/Monterey, saying “the City” refers to the C&C of SF. > > Unless you’re from one of the suburbs. People from Daly City to Redwood City to Walnut Creek to Tiburon claim to be from “San Francisco,” so much so that when my friend went to UC Riverside and said he was from SF, everyone asked, “yeah, but what city?” Possibly because they were from LA? Since Los Angeles County is so large and encompasses so many other cities besides the city of LA, it’s common for people from various suburbs to describe themselves as being from LA. Whereas in San Francisco, the city and county are coterminous, although I’d guess only locals know that. When someone asks me where I am from here in Chicago, I usually say “A little ways north of San Francisco” - I wouldn’t say “San Francisco”, unless it makes sense in context. Besides, I really am a native San Franciscan, even if I haven’t lived there in a long time, so it’s not a lie, although it is a little misleading (since my family moved to the 'burbs when I was a kid). The reason San Francisco seems so small is that it _is_ small. It’s only 47 sq. miles and it only has 770,000 people. It’s not even the biggest city in the Bay Area - San Jose is quite a lot larger. The only reason it gets play as a major city is because it’s the heart of the Bay Area, which is a major metropolitan area. Compared to Chicago, it’s absolutely tiny. After spending most of my life in the Bay Area, the city of Chicago is intimidatingly large, although the two metropolitan areas are pretty comparable in size. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/106 "2005-11-18T00:55:35Z")
I was born in Queens (high five Queensians!) but now live in the Bay Area. One of the SF stations continues to prattle about the Bay Area being “The Best Place on Earth” I never heard any crap like that when I lived in NY. It ain’t the best place without decent bagels and anywhere close to acceptable pastrami. Feh. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/107 "2005-11-18T01:28:01Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > The reason San Francisco seems so small is that it _is_ small. It’s only 47 sq. miles and it only has 770,000 people. That cracks me up because Disney World is 42 square miles. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/108 "2005-11-18T01:43:19Z")
> [@Orual](#): > > It does the way some people say it. I don’t think that it’s an endemic New Yorker problem, but I have met one or two really pretentious knobs who acted like going to school in Boston was like being exiled to the island of Elba. Now there is an area where “The City” can’t compete. It gets thumped down hard when it comes to higher education compared to Boston. That is a pretty big category. Sure, there are some good schools in New York but it gets trounced pretty easily by its neighbor to the North at the elite academic levels. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/109 "2005-11-18T01:50:00Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Now there is an area where “The City” can’t compete. It gets thumped down hard when it comes to higher education compared to Boston. That is a pretty big category. Sure, there are some good schools in New York but it gets trounced pretty easily by its neighbor to the North at the elite academic levels. MIT & Havard alone would trump any other US City. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/110 "2005-11-18T01:54:14Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Now there is an area where “The City” can’t compete. It gets thumped down hard when it comes to higher education compared to Boston. That is a pretty big category. Sure, there are some good schools in New York but it gets trounced pretty easily by its neighbor to the North at the elite academic levels. Ian Faith: The Boston gig has been cancelled… David St. Hubbins: What? Ian Faith: Yeah. I wouldn’t worry about it though, it’s not a big college town. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/111 "2005-11-18T01:57:16Z")
> [@jrfranchi](#): > > MIT & Havard alone would trump any other US City. Correct. Even the second tier Boston Schools like Boston University, Boston College, Brandeis, Wellesley, Tufts are still pretty damn good. The number of colleges in the Boston area can range into the dozens depending on where you draw the boundaries. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2005, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273/112 "2005-11-18T13:06:34Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Correct. Even the second tier Boston Schools like Boston University, Boston College, Brandeis, Wellesley, Tufts are still pretty damn good. The number of colleges in the Boston area can range into the dozens depending on where you draw the boundaries. Don’t forget Emerson. [My brother and Henry Winkler graduated from Emerson (tho not together)](http://photobucket.com/albums/b75/anyrose/?action=view¤t=jaysgrad.jpg) (along with several thousand others over the years) (I’m the cute one) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egotistical-new-yorkers/331273.md?page=5)