# Egregiously barf-worthy solo shit-tard-ry **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 2, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268 "2016-06-02T00:27:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/les_espaces_du_sommeil/32/308_2.png) [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Les_Espaces_Du_Sommeil)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/21 "2016-06-03T09:23:51Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Kevin Rowland of Dexy’s Midnight Runners gave us [_My Beauty_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Beauty). I’ve never heard it, but with a cover like that, who needs to? It generated a lot of talk at the time… almost all of it negative, but not because people were offended. 30 years before, a guy dressing as a girl on an album cover would probably have been trangressive but by 1999, come on. It wasn’t mainstream but it had already lost a lot of its “shocking value”. Meh. What’s more, I’ve always thought that he looks so uncomfortable on that cover. Why bother, really? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/22 "2016-06-03T11:15:52Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > I actually had no problem with Sting’s “Dream of the Blue Turtles” album. Sorry, he lost me at Hello. I guess he built a fortress around me heart. 😉 (sorry again). I mean, we could hear it coming from Every Little Thing… and I could hear the Hit-ness, if you will, of the music. But the danger in The Police’s music had been removed with surgical precision. I respect the skill of Dr. Sumner, but I wish he hadn’t performed such a radical amputation. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/23 "2016-06-03T11:34:45Z")
Roger Waters “The Body”. It makes early experimental Pink Floyd seem main stream. ---
**Author:** ![by-tor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/by-tor/32/266_2.png) [@by-tor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/by-tor)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/24 "2016-06-03T15:00:28Z")
Wasn’t there a solo record by Jon Anderson of Yes, where he was so stoned that he thought he was an elf? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/25 "2016-06-03T15:38:54Z")
KISS tried a concept album, _Music from “The Elder”_. It was their attempt at progressive rock with orchestras. The album flopped so horribly, they didn’t bother touring to promote it. ---
**Author:** ![TheInimitableMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TheInimitableMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheInimitableMaven)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/26 "2016-06-03T16:25:04Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > KISS tried a concept album, _Music from “The Elder”_. It was their attempt at progressive rock with orchestras. The album flopped so horribly, they didn’t bother touring to promote it. Oh, here’s how bad my fandom was as a teen…I actually really, REALLY liked that album. And believe it or not, I’d still rank it in my top three Kiss albums, along with the self-titled and _Creatures Of The Night_. As with a lot of Kiss music, yes, _The Elder_ was quite cheesy, but it had its very listenable/dare I say best song moments…namely “The Oath”, “A World Without Heroes”, and “I” (THE ONE Kiss song I actually heard on Music Choice’s Metal station back in the late 90’s…no kidding). With Kiss’ overall fanbase being very naturally accustomed to the brand of hard pop they’d been cranking out since _Destroyer_, it honestly took the outfit some balls to put out a progressive rock entry, especially with the genre just pure and simply not being their forte. I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that if Eric Carr had not replaced Peter Criss, Kiss would never have attempted such a thing. But to bring it back around to crappy solo albums, count me in the chorus of those who don’t find Sting’s first two solo efforts crappy (and like that they feature some lovely sax work from Branford Marsalis). Do posthumous albums count? For if they do, then please allow me to nominate **[Jim Morrison’s _An American Prayer_](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sbNhydPSnM)**. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/27 "2016-06-03T17:54:38Z")
These two guys do not belong on any list of shit-tard-ry, I assure you. Their solo stuff is great! (With the possible exception of Sting’s “Ren Faire” stuff. But, Hey, he was just fuckin’ around) > [@scabpicker](#): > > My default answer for this is Dee Dee King’s (Dee Dee Ramone) [Standing In the Spotlight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_in_the_Spotlight). Dee Dee does a Rap record. This is more like it. Dreadful. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/28 "2016-06-03T18:25:03Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > My default answer for this is Dee Dee King’s (Dee Dee Ramone) [Standing In the Spotlight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_in_the_Spotlight). Dee Dee does a Rap record. > > It’d be a lot funnier if he wasn’t serious. I thought he wrote some damn good songs for the Ramones, and the songs he wrote for this record might have worked there. But there was something he fundamentally didn’t get about Rap, and apparently there wasn’t anyone around to tell him to either make it better or stop. The production sounds like the worst cheesy demo tape you’ve ever heard, and he doesn’t rap in a manner that works in any way I can discern. It has all the hallmarks of a person who’s newly sober trying to remake themselves into somebody they’ve picked, rather than finding out who they are. No matter how much sympathy you can have for a person that’s struggling with addiction, and I have a lot: It’s a colossally bad record. > > I bought my copy ages ago for $2 out of the bargian bin, but before it went to being a cutout. I’d read a lot of exposes on how bad it was, and I wanted to try it just once…You know? The horror is that this record actually seems to sell for $35 and higher online in the present day (you can buy one now for $135 at Amazon). If I was a lot more evil, I’d sell mine. As it is, it merely sits as a problem for the inheritor of my estate. If you see this record for sale, do not buy it. This post reminded me of all the things I’ve heard about Lou Reed’s “Metal Machine Music”. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/29 "2016-06-03T19:21:56Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > These two guys do not belong on any list of shit-tard-ry, I assure you. Their solo stuff is great! (With the possible exception of Sting’s “Ren Faire” stuff. But, Hey, he was just fuckin’ around) > > > [@scabpicker](#): > > > > My default answer for this is Dee Dee King’s (Dee Dee Ramone) [Standing In the Spotlight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_in_the_Spotlight). Dee Dee does a Rap record. > > This is more like it. Dreadful. Hehehe, I think Sting’s solo output is worthy of this thread. Thankfully the band did break up, so there’s only one Police record that I have to skip a bunch of songs on. > [@nearwildheaven](#): > > This post reminded me of all the things I’ve heard about Lou Reed’s “Metal Machine Music”. I’ve heard MMM, and I kind of like it. It certainly has its moments. I don’t think SitS has any pleasant moments, much less good ones. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/30 "2016-06-03T21:10:28Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > These two guys do not belong on any list of shit-tard-ry, I assure you. Oh, okay, then. If you assure me. 😕 Sorry. Choosing to disagree here. Hope that’s okay. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/31 "2016-06-04T01:07:53Z")
> [@by-tor](#): > > Wasn’t there a solo record by Jon Anderson of Yes, where he was so stoned that he thought he was an elf? Like - that was the albums concept/lyrics? Or was he actually having elfish (elvin?) delusions while recording? I would be more intrigued by the latter. It was so long ago I listened to Chris Squire’s “Fish” album (featuring one of my top five drum gods, Mr. Bill Bruford), which I was kinda meh on at the time - don’t know if I should give it another chance again. > [@Richard\_Pearse](#): > > Roger Waters “The Body”. It makes early experimental Pink Floyd seem main stream. All I remember about any Waters solo work is walking into a record store and totally burst out laughing at seeing the “Pros and Cons of Hitch-hiking” album display. > [@Gatopescado](#): > > These two guys do not belong on any list of shit-tard-ry, I assure you. Their solo stuff is great! (With the possible exception of Sting’s “Ren Faire” stuff. But, Hey, he was just fuckin’ around). Sure. With “Blue Turtles” I thought Kenny Kirkland on piano and Omar Hakim on drums rounded out the rhythm section quite fine. While it’s expected that a popular musician’s first solo efforts would have stuff that is, yeah, definitely too radio-friendly, I could list too many links here from that disc that _more_ than offset that poppy downtrend. And because I feel like sharing some solo wizardry, just think of Sting and… line-dancing…Yeah, just let that marinate a little…Sting…line-dancing… oh and exemplary hair, too: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LI8khooPyJk/maxresdefault.jpg "Sting - I'm So Happy I Can't Stop Crying") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI8khooPyJk) ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268/32 "2016-06-04T02:05:33Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > All I remember about any Waters solo work is walking into a record store and totally burst out laughing at seeing the “Pros and Cons of Hitch-hiking” album display. I had that one. Didn’t do much for me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/egregiously-barf-worthy-solo-shit-tard-ry/756268.md?page=1)