# Eidolon909, just for you **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126 "2002-11-27T16:09:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/1 "2002-11-27T16:09:34Z")
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=146564](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=146564) Care to enlighten us just why you felt you had to eludicate to your opinion of suicide in the above thread? Do you have no consideration? Why didn’t you just come right out and insult her friend right then and there? I’d say you’re a hoot at funerals. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/2 "2002-11-27T16:22:19Z")
I didn’t express an opinion. I suggested the thread be moved to a more appropriate board. Threads in the Pit are fair game and I was mindful of expressing my opinion. > [@](#): > > Do you have no consideration? Yes, I do. I have the utmost sympathy for the victims in this case – the friends and family. > [@](#): > > Why didn’t you just come right out and insult her friend right then and there? It was unlikely the young woman’s intent was for it to be a “Pit” thread. Your next question: Then why couldn’t you just leave it be? Simple answer. The more outpouring of support the more irritating it would become. Suicide is an issue the resonates strongly with many people. Myself included. ---
**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/3 "2002-11-27T16:26:32Z")
I’m wondering myself why the thread should be in the Pit. But you have a point there, **TwistofFate** , what **Eidolon909** said was downright rude. ---
**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/4 "2002-11-27T16:29:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eidolon909 \* > **I didn’t express an opinion. I suggested the thread be moved to a more appropriate board.** And which board would you suggest? General Questions? Great Debates? Mundaine Pointless Stuff? Perhaps because suicide is _“an issue the resonates strongly with many people.”_ it was put in the pit. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eidolon909 \* > **Simple answer. The more outpouring of support the more irritating it would become.** Simple logic. You are an arsehole. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/5 "2002-11-27T16:33:51Z")
I’m afraid to say that, in his short time on this board, **Eidolon909** has demonstrated little behaviour that makes himself look like anything but prejudiced, angry, insensitive, and insulting. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/6 "2002-11-27T16:35:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tir Tinuviel \* > \*\*And which board would you suggest? > > General Questions? > Great Debates? > Mundaine Pointless Stuff?\*\* MPSIMS is where similar threads usually are, yes. > [@](#): > > \*\* > Simple logic. You are an arsehole. \*\* Meh. ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/7 "2002-11-27T16:35:27Z")
**Eidolon** , for reasons given in the other thread, suicide is also an issue which resonates strongly with me. When I read **ñañi** ’s OP, I read it as the words of someone who was grieving and looking for answers. Your post over there could be taken as a veiled threat. Now, if you would like to get into a full scale Pit Fest on the issue of suicide, I’ll be happy to take you on here, although I may not be on line much tomorrow because of the holiday. My stance is simple. While I’m about as far from a fan of suicide as you can get, I have a great deal of first-hand knowledge about what it’s like to be suicidal. Curiously enough, a good argument is less likely to make me so, and could be considered a reasonable remedy. CJ ---
**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/8 "2002-11-27T16:37:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eidolon909 \* > \*\*MPSIMS is where similar threads usually are, yes. \*\* You consider her feelings regarding the death of her friend as mundane and pointless? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/9 "2002-11-27T16:39:08Z")
Eidolon909, just answer one question for me. Have you e-mailed a moderator or administrator to express your belief that the thread in question is in the wrong forum? ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/10 "2002-11-27T16:43:08Z")
Tir, that’s not fair. A lot of very very sad threads have been in MPSIMS. It IS where a lot of similar stuff is put. The title of the forum is unfortunately flip, but the subject matter has dealt with everything from death of family members and pets to car accidents. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/11 "2002-11-27T16:45:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eidolon909 \* > \*\*IThe more outpouring of support the more irritating it would become. Suicide is an issue the resonates strongly with many people. Myself included. \*\* Then don’t read the thread. And keep you assholic mouth shut. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/12 "2002-11-27T16:47:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tir Tinuviel \* > \*\*You consider her feelings regarding the death of her friend as mundane and pointless? \*\* No. MPSIMS should be re-named to Miscellaneous. That what its about. If the topic doesn’t fit anywhere else (which it doesn’t) it goes there. Check it. Its full of grief and sympathy about topics that are not “mundane” or “pointless”. You’re so eager to vilify, I find it rather lubricating. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/13 "2002-11-27T16:47:09Z")
Wile MPSIMS is usually where those threads go, the pit is by no means the wrong forum to speak about a friends suicide. She could have alot of anger. Just because she dosent curse or rant in the OP dosen’t make it any less of pit thread. Regardless, it was insensitive in the highest to try to hijack it towards your ethical beliefs on suicide. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/14 "2002-11-27T16:48:59Z")
You know, one of the really cool abilities that adults have is the abilty to feel quite strong emotions and still refrain from sharing them when the result of sharing them is likely to be both non-productive and hurtful. It’s certainly not against the rules to read a post, feel a great deal, and then hit the back button, slipping away like a theif in the night. if it brings you pleasure, you can even type out a response and **then** hit the back button. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/15 "2002-11-27T16:49:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \* > \*\*Eidolon909, just answer one question for me. Have you e-mailed a moderator or administrator to express your belief that the thread in question is in the wrong forum? \*\* No, because the Moderators on this particular board don’t answer their mail. ---
**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/16 "2002-11-27T16:49:49Z")
Jar, he has already implied as much in his previous comments. Just asking for clarification. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/17 "2002-11-27T16:50:18Z")
yes they do. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/18 "2002-11-27T16:50:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*Then don’t read the thread. And keep you assholic mouth shut. \*\* Then move it to the right forum. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/19 "2002-11-27T16:51:20Z")
Tir T., ya, there’s a known problem, in that there is no forum called: “Intensely important personal issues that I must share.” To that end, Some go into MSIPMS and some go into the PIT depending on the anger content. For instance, there’s currently a post by a moderator, no less, in MSIPMS, called “Goodbye Spot (sad),” which isn’t mundane or pointless. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126/20 "2002-11-27T16:53:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Manda JO \* > \*\*You know, one of the really cool abilities that adults have is the abilty to feel quite strong emotions and still refrain from sharing them when the result of sharing them is likely to be both non-productive and hurtful. > > It’s certainly not against the rules to read a post, feel a great deal, and then hit the back button, slipping away like a theif in the night. if it brings you pleasure, you can even type out a response and **then** hit the back button. \*\* Oh, but **Manda JO** I’m sure you’re keenly aware that the entire point of our meandering soliloquies is the audience they bring. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/eidolon909-just-for-you/139126.md?page=2)