# El Sartorio - tracking down ancient porn

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 28, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/el-sartorio-tracking-down-ancient-porn/465561 "2008-09-28T08:15:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Panurge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Panurge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panurge)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/el-sartorio-tracking-down-ancient-porn/465561/1 "2008-09-28T08:15:14Z")

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Inspired by a post in the [Funniest Porn](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=484110) thread I decided to try to track down [El Sartorio](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Sartorio), apparently the oldest pornographic film in existence. The film dates from 1907, so it should be public domain material by now. But I can’t find it - and most of the sites that have info on the film seem to be quoting the same article Wikipedia does. Now I am beginning to doubt that it even exists; if it’s porn and legal to distribute you would think that it’s available on the internet somewhere, wouldn’t you? Has anybody here seen it?

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/el-sartorio-tracking-down-ancient-porn/465561/2 "2008-09-28T08:36:22Z")

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You reckon without the personality of the film collector. He can be one of the most selfish connoisseurs imaginable, keeping even the existence of something rare or unique a jealously guarded secret.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/el-sartorio-tracking-down-ancient-porn/465561/3 "2008-09-28T21:46:15Z")

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You might try the vintage erotica forum (put the www on the front, the .com on the back, and separate the words with dashes).

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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/el-sartorio-tracking-down-ancient-porn/465561/4 "2008-09-28T22:04:48Z")

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Are you specifically looking for it posted on the Internet, or would any format do? I’ve seen it on video; it was stocked by Scarecrow Video as part of a set of vintage porn. The series title was something along the lines of “What Got Grandpa Hard”.

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**Author:** ![Panurge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Panurge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panurge)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/el-sartorio-tracking-down-ancient-porn/465561/5 "2008-09-29T06:15:34Z")

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> [@Hunter\_Hawk](#):
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> Are you specifically looking for it posted on the Internet, or would any format do? I’ve seen it on video; it was stocked by Scarecrow Video as part of a set of vintage porn. The series title was something along the lines of “What Got Grandpa Hard”.

So far I have only been searching online, but any format will do. I learned about the existence of the film a few days ago and haven’t had the time to roam Copenhagen’s dingy video stores for vhs copies. 😛 My plan is (if I can find it) to give a copy to a friend of mine, who is definitely into “celluloid oddities” - I think “The World’s oldest filmed porn” might fit right in there.

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**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/el-sartorio-tracking-down-ancient-porn/465561/6 "2008-09-29T08:54:51Z")

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As many, I guess, I’ve seen clips of apparently just El Sartorio - incredibly hilarious to watch hard-core porn that makes Buster Keaton gags look modern in comparison.

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**Author:** ![Panurge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Panurge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panurge)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/el-sartorio-tracking-down-ancient-porn/465561/7 "2008-09-29T09:07:07Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> You might try the vintage erotica forum (put the www on the front, the .com on the back, and separate the words with dashes).

Thank you for the tip. I have just joined over there, but so far in vain - a forum search brings up nothing. Seems like a fun place, though, and so full of tacky old Danish stuff that it feels like entering a 1970s adult cinema here in Copenhagen.

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**Author:** ![1kneegrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ea5d25/32.png) [@1kneegrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1kneegrow)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/el-sartorio-tracking-down-ancient-porn/465561/8 "2014-07-02T15:49:06Z")

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Hahaha:cool:  
I posted this around the same time of the devil with the horn pic, that film if survived auctioned off as the most expensive-valuable material possession ever—
