# Election crow and eat crow thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 6, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077 "2012-11-06T14:05:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/41 "2012-11-06T20:43:34Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Not me, I’m in Chicago.
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> Not really, I’m in NJ, hence the lack of power.

How far are you from the nearest polling station, as the crow flies?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/42 "2012-11-06T21:48:47Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> How far are you from the nearest polling station, as the crow flies?

Not too far, maybe 3 or 4 blocks by caw.

No, it’s not a crow joke. I’m in New Jersey. That’s how they tawk around heah.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/43 "2012-11-06T22:31:40Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Also, a lot of people who come across stories that are “too good not to share” don’t do a whole lot of “analysis” before rushing to share them, or to cackle over them.
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> Quickly glance at the story, find it in perfect alignment with your preferred view of the world, and rush to the keyboard.

Well yes, people do that regularly. BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE. You are imagining that is is the case, BUT IT IS NOT.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/44 "2012-11-07T03:52:47Z")

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CNN has all but called Florida for Obama. Their finger-pointing guy says he can’t find a way for Romney to make up the difference, with all of the uncounted counties in D territory. So, I’m crowing 10 minutes early.

If things change, I promise I’ll come back in the AM and apologize for my early crowing and eat some black feathers instead. I’m getting too tired to keep up – I’m signing off here and turning off the TV shortly after 11.

On the plus side, I have power back. Yay!

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/45 "2012-11-07T04:09:53Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Do local elections count too?
> 
> Again this year, in Maine we are voting on allowing gay marriage. I have every belief that it will finally pass. But I’ve thought that before and it never quite panned out.
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> I also believe Angus King will waltz into a Senate seat whistling a happy tune.
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> And, of course, I’ll be shocked if Obama doesn’t pull it off tonight.  
> Crow me; I can take it.

With Angus dusting off his ol’ soft shoe, Maine Ballot Issue #1 - Gay Marriage - at 53% Yes, and Obama looking like he’s in, I may be on the right side of my whole slate for a change. Of course, Romney could still pull something out of his ass - but I don’t see how - and The County could single-handedly overturn the 53% majority on #1, so you never know.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/46 "2012-11-07T04:13:37Z")

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Is it just me or are the Republicans taking it on the chin in more than just the presidential elections? Lots of happy Democrats at least here at the voting center.

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/47 "2012-11-07T05:53:09Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I propose this thread as a place to crow about your successful predictions.

In April, [I wrote on my blog](http://theblogthatwasthursday.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/whos-gonna-win/): “I might as well give my prediction. Obama wins by between one and two percent.” It looks as if the popular vote may be heading to exactly that range.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/48 "2012-11-07T09:17:50Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> _ **The Odds Against Obama: Why History and Logic Make the President a Likely Loser** _

Not like it’s any better than “[40 more years](http://progressive.org/adler0609.html)”.

> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Quickly glance at the story, find it in perfect alignment with your preferred view of the world, and rush to the keyboard.

I knew something was off in that the mainstream media would never mention Bush, America’s best president since Reagan.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/49 "2012-11-07T10:18:39Z")

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> [@gamerunknown](#):
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> Not like it’s any better than “[40 more years](http://progressive.org/adler0609.html)”.

James Carville’s premise in that book is actually turning out correct though.

A great many people have deemed this past election as the last gasp of the white male voter and the demographics that came from this election show that they were all right except the last gasp didn’t come about as they hoped.

That book talks about the youth vote. Despite those who spoke of an “enthusiasm gap,” young voters did come out this year. Maybe not in droves compared to 2008 but more than enough.

Couple that with other demographic changes which favor Democrats - the Latino vote, the minority vote as a whole and single women (raising kids who will go onto vote) are getting bigger every year whereas the Evangelical vote seems to have gone down this election (you can attribute some of that to Romney being a Mormon but how does it explain how suddenly same sex marriage initiatives and marijuana legalization votes all failed so dismally in years past but performed quite well yesterday).

Then factor in that every year an old white guy is dying while 1.x minorities are being born.

The only thing about that book that is wrong is that it didn’t account the 2010 midterm into account (probably - I cannot tell by the synopsis and I didn’t read the book). History could very well see that election as the last gasp of the angry white male voter.

Or 2012 can be the start of a major shift in Republicans. We will see. But they have to do something. Trying to out-spend and making it difficult for large portions of the electorate to vote didn’t do the trick as we can all see.

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**Author:** ![Rich\_Mann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@Rich\_Mann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rich_Mann)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/50 "2012-11-08T10:00:46Z")

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I didn’t make a prediction that I can crow about, but I will crow about an election _ **first** _ for me.

I cast my vote for every candidate, measure, and initiative on the ballot–Federal, State, County, and City–and _every single choice won_!

I am the voice of the people for the first, and probably the last, time in my life! Yay me!

(I’ve been voting since 1980, by the way)

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/51 "2012-11-08T19:25:13Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Don’t everyone flock to this thread all at once. That could murder the whole premise.

I can’t believe no one has jumped up to say “I see what you did there.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-crow-and-eat-crow-thread/640077/52 "2012-11-08T19:32:04Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> I can’t believe no one has jumped up to say “I see what you did there.”

That just encourages him.

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