# Election Day 2019.  Will today's results show how things are trending for next year?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 5, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030 "2019-11-05T15:08:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/21 "2019-11-06T03:20:58Z")

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And Bevin, acting like the true scumbag he is, will not be conceding the race. He will petition a judge for a recount based on voting “irregularites”.

Shithead.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
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[Mitch McConnell Has The Same Low Approval Rating Of The GOP Governor Who Just Lost In Kentucky](https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/05/mitch-mcconnell-same-low-approval-rating-gop-governor-who-lost-kentucky.html)

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/23 "2019-11-06T03:23:05Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> And Bevin, acting like the true scumbag he is, will not be conceding the race. He will petition a judge for a recount based on voting “irregularites”.
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> Shithead.

To be fair, so many people voting for a Democrat in Kentucky is pretty irregular 😁

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/24 "2019-11-06T03:23:48Z")

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If the democrats win both legislatures and the governorship in Virginia, they better find a way to overturn gerrymandering. The democrats have to win by a 10 pt margin just to break even there.

I’m not too hopeful about the future. The public seem to vote against whoever is in the white house. Democrats won big in 2018 and 2019, and will likely win big in 2020. But if the democrat wins the presidency in 2020, I’m worried the GOP will just win in 2022. Its an endless back and forth.

On the plus side, the democrats controlling at least one house of congress and/or the governorship in multiple states will make gerrymandering much harder in 2020. I hope at least.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/25 "2019-11-06T03:27:10Z")

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I gather turnout is increased in most of these races as compared to previous state/local election years. It’ll be interesting to see, if possible, the partisan breakdown of voters as compared to those previous elections. If both Republicans and Democrats turned out in greater numbers this time, that’s one thing, and if more of one than the other turned out, that’s something else. I’m cautiously optimistic that this shows a continuation of the “blue wave”, however.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/26 "2019-11-06T03:41:10Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Looks like Virginia, despite Trump’s tweeting about gloom and disaster if the Dem win, will have Democratic majorities in both their House and Senate, reversing Republican majorities.
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> Can hardly wait to see what Our Pres. has to say about that

Based on my reading of the news, this portends passage of the Equal Rights Amendment to the US Constitution!! (I was so flabbergasted I considered starting a thread - any takers?)

See, only 1 more state needs to ratify it for the ERA to become law. Virginia is one such state, and it just barely failed passage (by 1 vote) earlier this year. Democrats are likely to revive the issue…that’s a pretty big deal.

> **[ERA activists are eyeing a win in Virginia. Is now the time?](https://apnews.com/article/48500f7bda97455f8a586710a2fcfe26)**
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> RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — As Carol Jenkins sees it, a nearly 100-year push to add the Equal Rights Amendment to the U.S.

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**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/27 "2019-11-06T03:47:52Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> To be fair, so many people voting for a Democrat in Kentucky is pretty irregular 😁

😃

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/28 "2019-11-06T04:20:33Z")

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For something different, consider Colorado.

2018 saw a major blue wave. Tonight shows that the Democrats have overreached themselves. The Democratic-controlled legislature referred a measure to the ballot, CC, which was a major assault on TABOR (The Taxpayer Bill of Rights). It was technically not a tax increase, but it would have resulted in the government keeping a lot more of the people’s money. Prop CC is headed to a solid defeat, with 55.6% currently rejecting it.

Spending on the pro-CC side: about $4 million. Spending on the anti-CC side: about $1.5 million.

Ever since TABOR was passed in 1992, liberals in the state have chafed under its restrictions, indignant that the voters are unwilling to write government a blank check. Well, they’ll just have to continue to chafe.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/29 "2019-11-06T05:09:55Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Based on my reading of the news, this portends passage of the Equal Rights Amendment to the US Constitution!! (I was so flabbergasted I considered starting a thread - any takers?)
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> See, only 1 more state needs to ratify it for the ERA to become law. Virginia is one such state, and it just barely failed passage (by 1 vote) earlier this year. Democrats are likely to revive the issue…that’s a pretty big deal.
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> [ERA activists are eyeing a win in Virginia. Is now the time? | AP News](https://apnews.com/48500f7bda97455f8a586710a2fcfe26)

I think you should start a thread. Women’s rights have increase greatly since the ERA was first proposed but I wonder what exactly the passage of the ERA would mean.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/30 "2019-11-06T06:35:04Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Based on my reading of the news, this portends passage of the Equal Rights Amendment to the US Constitution!! (I was so flabbergasted I considered starting a thread - any takers?)
> 
> See, only 1 more state needs to ratify it for the ERA to become law. Virginia is one such state, and it just barely failed passage (by 1 vote) earlier this year. Democrats are likely to revive the issue…that’s a pretty big deal.
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> [ERA activists are eyeing a win in Virginia. Is now the time? | AP News](https://apnews.com/48500f7bda97455f8a586710a2fcfe26)

That is good news.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/31 "2019-11-06T11:28:16Z")

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> [@galen\_ubal](#):
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> [Mitch McConnell Has The Same Low Approval Rating Of The GOP Governor Who Just Lost In Kentucky](https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/05/mitch-mcconnell-same-low-approval-rating-gop-governor-who-lost-kentucky.html)

That squishy ploppy sound you’ve been hearing is Moscow Mitch shitting bricks.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/32 "2019-11-06T12:01:21Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Moscow Mitch shitting bricks.

Sounds like a jump-rope rhyme.

_Moscow Mitch  
Shitting Bricks  
How many bricks can Mitchy shit?  
One! Two! Three! Four!  
Come on turtle shit some more!  
Five! Six! Seven! Eight!  
Shit those bricks out of our state!_

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/33 "2019-11-06T12:07:17Z")

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Love it!

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/34 "2019-11-06T12:41:21Z")

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Trump thought the KY governor race would be a reflection on him:

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> And Trump himself, just a night earlier, had said the outcome of Bevin’s reelection bid would be a reflection on him.  
> “If you lose, they’re going to say Trump suffered the greatest defeat in the history of the world. This was the greatest. You can’t let that happen to me,” he told Bevin at their rally.

There you have it, straight from the horses ass’ mouth- Donald Trump just suffered the greatest loss in the history of the world.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/35 "2019-11-06T12:53:33Z")

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Smaller races, but encouraging news from a purple (and formerly very red) part of PA: Democrats seem to have been elected in all big Chester County races, including 2 new county commissioners and a new DA. (Three cheers for my neighbors, as D’s won ever race in my voting precinct too.)

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/36 "2019-11-06T13:14:24Z")

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Donald Trump went to the Series and got booed.

He went to a UFC fight and got booed.

He went to KY and got metaphorically booed.

That woman flipped him off, she got fired, she is now representing the very district Trump’s golf club resides in. Boo!

There’s a district in Philly that is so Democratic that they have two seats reserved for the GOP, effectively the “minority party”. The GOP lost one of those seats to a socialist party.

Delaware County, PA, in GOP hands for forever, now has a 5-0 Democratic council.

Yesterday, Beshear was a socialist. Now Brad Parscale, in an attempt to save his ass, is claiming that he’s just like a Republican.

Yeah, this election mattered. The fact is that overall, the GOP is 0-3 in election night gains since 2016 and 2020 will make them 0-4.

Last note: Saving Trump from impeachment obviously failed from a campaigning standpoint for the GOP, but using it truly inspired a massive Democratic turnout… _again_.

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You better believe the Republicans will be putting their thumb on the scales hard during the recount for KY governor. I’d bet almost anything that suddenly there will be some “uncounted” Republicans votes, and/or some Democrat votes that are “unclear” as to the voter intent.

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I thought Mitch McConnell and Bevin hated each other. That’s what the guy on CNN was saying last night. If so, I can’t see any McConnell tears here.

The CNN guy was also saying Kentucky will be in the bag for Trump no matter what. So, KY voting in a Democrat governor is more of a one-off based on Bevin’s caustic personality. But could KY be in play for the Democrats if they ran a presidential candidate more in the mold of Beshear, rather than Warren/Sanders? Or is it a case that it doesn’t matter who the Democratic candidate is, KY will stay red?

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-2019-will-todays-results-show-how-things-are-trending-for-next-year/843030/39 "2019-11-06T14:04:42Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> You better believe the Republicans will be putting their thumb on the scales hard during the recount for KY governor. I’d bet almost anything that suddenly there will be some “uncounted” Republicans votes, and/or some Democrat votes that are “unclear” as to the voter intent.

I fully understand why you would expect this to occur, I am however curious what the steps are for a recount to take place.

As I understand it Kentucky does not have a law that triggers automatic recounts. Apparently Bevin will have to convince a court to order a recount. A 5000 vote margin in a race where 1.5 million votes were cast is definitely a close margin of victory but is that alone enough to get a court to agree that a recount is needed?

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Democratic vote won Breathitt County, Kentucky, a community that went for President Trump by 45 points in 2016. If this doesn’t show us how things are trending for next year I don’t know what could.

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