# Election Day Omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 4, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683 "2024-11-04T20:15:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/221 "2024-11-05T19:31:33Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Yes, but the same time - and I’m not saying Trump stands the slightest whisker chance of winning - if Trump wins, the Ds are going to be confounded. If even running an A+ campaign for an A+ candidate against an F- candidate who ran an F- campaign didn’t result in victory, where do you go from there? Who knows. Not anywhere good. It’s a scary thought, and one I hope we don’t have to contemplate the answer to other than as a hypothetical. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/222 "2024-11-05T19:35:31Z")
yeah, the ads are crazy on those sites. i mostly use them when i watch from my phone and can’t use tv provider sites. sometimes you can stream local news. last night at the rally i was able to stream 6abc. i usually watch cnn in the morning, then switch to msnbc in the afternoon. i enjoy katy tur snark. i made the switch at 1pm eastern to msnbc. i was at the harris rally in philly 'till the turn of the day morning. got to the flat after midnight. took advil and crawled into bed. i ended up voting before going to the office. i handed off a basket of treats for the poll workers and voters. the shuttle was running late. tonight i will have ben and jerry’s, milky ways, and root beer float making on hand. i also got a wee bottle of california sparkling wine chilling… add me to the nauseously optimistic list. amazon prime will have live stream with brian williams. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/223 "2024-11-05T19:47:05Z")
I’m getting very discouraged, and any hope I had is quickly evaporating. It seems every exit interview I’m seeing is people saying they don’t like Trump but are voting for him anyway because of economy/immigrants/transgender people/etc. Women, Puerto Ricans, old, young. I know it’s just a sample with plenty of confirmation bias on my part, but if we were counting on peoples distaste for Trump to carry Harris, that isn’t going to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/224 "2024-11-05T19:55:37Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Yes, but the same time, if Trump wins, the Democrats are going to be confounded. If even running an A+ campaign for an A+ candidate against an F- candidate who ran an F- campaign didn’t result in victory, where do you go from there? Canada ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/225 "2024-11-05T20:04:26Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > At that point you stop blaming the campaign(s), and _directly_ blame the voters that put him in. The common clay of the new West. I got dismayed in 2020 when after four years of him, more people voted for Trump than in 2016. I have yet to get my may back. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/226 "2024-11-05T20:08:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > At that point you stop blaming the campaign(s), and _directly_ blame the voters that put him in. I am not going to blame Republicans for voting Republican I am not going to blame Democrats for voting Democratic I will blame Democrats for not voting. She’s your candidate. It is up to YOU to vote her in. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/227 "2024-11-05T20:13:04Z")
Democrats are voting. Republicans are voting for a despicable twice-impeached convict who said he would throw his political rivals in jail and led his followers in an unsuccessful violent overthrow of our government. _Please do not attempt to softsell what Republicans are doing, and what they are openly attempting to do, to this country._ ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/228 "2024-11-05T20:18:46Z")
Yesterday a bloody horse-race stopped a nation (Melbourne Cup, lasts about 3 min give or take). Toldday an election is stopping the world in its tracks. C’mon America, make it worth the world’s while to put everything on a hiatus today. Good luck from Down Under. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/229 "2024-11-05T20:19:29Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Please do not attempt to softsell what Republicans are doing, and what they are openly attempting to do, to this country. I’m not. Point to where I have in this thread. My point is that politics is so polarized in this country that to expect people to cross party line is not reasonable. Sometimes you have an asshole neighbor and despite all of crap they manufacture you just need to accept that they will be an asshole and nothing will change that. Sure you can blame them OR you can resolve to beat them despite their assholeness. Meanwhile your side wants to shift blame and not look at yourselves if YOUR SIDE doesn’t vote for your own candidate and she loses. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/230 "2024-11-05T20:20:30Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > It seems every exit interview I’m seeing is people saying they don’t like Trump but are voting for him anyway because of economy/immigrants/transgender people/etc. Women, Puerto Ricans, old, young. That’s baked in to the polling. As I said in a [previous post.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/199) These are people who aren’t deciding who to vote for on the issues, they vote Republican because that is their tribe. Any reasons they give are post hoc rationalization. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/231 "2024-11-05T20:21:52Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Republicans are voting for a despicable twice-impeached convict … And something around1/12 to 1/8 of those Republicans are likely pulling the lever for Harris. Cite? Just that one _Philly Inquirer_ Pennsylvania poll from around two weeks back. I’ve linked it I think twice in this forum … can link again on request. EDIT: Never mind, I found it quickly. > **[The battleground state where Kamala Harris is winning the most Republicans](https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-winning-republicans-pennsylvania-1970137)** > > Polls suggest Harris' message to Republicans is especially resonating with GOP voters in Pennsylvania. > A _New York Times_ /Siena College/_Philadelphia Inquirer_ poll found Harris winning 12 percent of Republicans in the state. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/232 "2024-11-05T20:22:44Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > My point is that politics is so polarized in this country that to expect people to cross party line is not reasonable Many prominent Republicans are doing just that and urging others to follow suit. I think we can call those who refuse to do “unreasonable.” ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/233 "2024-11-05T20:23:16Z")
on msnbc one polling station in the temple university area is at an hour and a half from end of line to machine. here is the math. you get 2 machines per division, there are 4 divisions in this polling station, they have 10 machines, so, 2 extra machines. thankfully, phila has a rather easy ballot today. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/234 "2024-11-05T20:24:21Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Meanwhile your side wants to shift blame and not look at yourselves if YOUR SIDE doesn’t vote for your own candidate and she loses. Is there any solid evidence that Democrats are staying home instead of voting any more than Republicans are? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/235 "2024-11-05T20:24:57Z")
Moderating: > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I am not going to blame Republicans for voting Republican > I am not going to blame Democrats for voting Democratic > I will blame Democrats for not voting. She’s your candidate. It is up to YOU to vote her in. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Democrats are voting. > Republicans are voting for a despicable twice-impeached convict who said he would throw his political rivals in jail and led his followers in an unsuccessful violent overthrow of our government. > _Please do not attempt to softsell what Republicans are doing, and what they are openly attempting to do, to this country._ > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > ’m not. Point to where I have in this thread. My point is that politics is so polarized in this country that to expect people to cross party line is not reasonable. Sometimes you have an asshole neighbor and despite all of crap they manufacture you just need to accept that they will be an asshole and nothing will change that. Sure you can blame them OR you can resolve to beat them despite their assholeness. > Meanwhile your side wants to shift blame and not look at yourselves if YOUR SIDE doesn’t vote for your own candidate and she loses. Let’s drop this petty sniping back and forth in this thread. Take it up in the Pit, if you must. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/236 "2024-11-05T20:25:31Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Our ballot was surprisingly sparse for a presidential election year. One house and one senate seat. A couple of local councils. A couple of board of ed. Absolutely no questions or ballot initiatives. There are usually a couple of minor ones at least. We only had FOUR things to select: President, our U.S. Representative, and two parish charter referenda. Very quick vote. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/237 "2024-11-05T20:25:48Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > And something around1/12 to 1/8 of those Republicans are likely pulling the lever for Harris. > [@Procrustus](#): > > Many prominent Republicans are doing just that and urging others to follow suit. I think we can call those who refuse to do “unreasonable.” Yeah. Republicans for Harris is a thing. Strangely I don’t hear about that as a factor in swing states. I have to admit that Republicans blindly voting Trump just astounds me. He completely failed as President except in foreign policy … but I attribute that to the Kim Jun Un factor. Trump is so batshit crazy (like Kim) that Russia and China decided to wait until he was out of office before showing aggression. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/238 "2024-11-05T20:28:35Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Yeah. Republicans for Harris is a thing. Strangely I don’t hear about that as a factor in swing states. Pennsylvania? Admittedly, I think almost no other state-level polling has honed in on party-crossing directly. It’s been possible to looks through cross-tabs of large-sample national polls to glimpse a bit at party-crossing voters. EDIT: Also, I think we’ll be hearing a lot about the “Republicans for Harris” vote in the coming months. It will be part of the post-election hot wash for both parties. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/239 "2024-11-05T20:32:03Z")
I really like paper ballots. The actual “voting booth” is just a cheap divider things to give a little privacy and a hard surface for writing. Cheap. So the rate limiting step of voting is signing in. The ballot can be of any length, doesn’t matter, your pondering over the ballot doesn’t cost anyone else time. My polling place has 2 people doing the sign in per precinct, so that’s going pretty fast. At 10:15 (not a peak time) the line was three people long. Even at the peak “before work” and “between work and supper” hours, in guessing the lines will be short. (The paper ballots are scanned by a computerized box. Each voter has to wait a few seconds after feeding in their ballot to make sure it’s accepted. Except for write-ins and partially-spoiled ballots, the votes will be counted within minutes of when the polls close. And there’s a robust paper audit trail if needed.) ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/240 "2024-11-05T20:35:12Z")
We had a hybrid system this year. In the past it’s been all electronic. This year we were handed a blank paper that we would feed into the computer we were voting at. Once we completed the ballot, our selections were printed on the paper and then we had to go deposit that paper in a sealed box. I suspect this system was started due to Republican paranoia about rigged machines. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683.md?page=13)