# Election Day Omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 4, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683 "2024-11-04T20:15:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 45

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/881 "2024-11-06T04:55:53Z")

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To my earlier point about abortion, Amendment 3 passed in Missouri. It prohibits the state from passing any law restriction abortion before viability, or restricting abortions in cases where the health of the mother is at risk.

And Trump carried the state by 15%.

Voters are very happy to vote for Republicans as long as they can also vote to keep abortion legal.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/882 "2024-11-06T04:56:26Z")

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Looking at the live map on Yahoo News, they have the current EV total for Harris as 205. By my count that means she has to win WI, MI, PA, GA and NV (or AZ) to put her total over 270. But she has to win them **all**.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/883 "2024-11-06T04:57:14Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> By my count that means she has to win WI, MI, PA, GA and NV (or AZ) to put her total over 270. But she has to win them **all**.

So far, **nothing** has flipped from 2020.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/884 "2024-11-06T04:57:23Z")

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It’s the question of what do you expect America to do? There’s an argument that America and Europe didn’t give enough support to Ukraine, but how do you do so when the other party has a large arsenal of nuclear weapons? If Russia manages to take more of Ukraine than what they currently have that’s a damn shame. But other than supplying Ukraine with ordnance, I don’t know what can really be done.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/885 "2024-11-06T04:59:26Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> The one possible silver lining is that seeing what Trump actually does might derail the imminent Conservative win in our next election.

Just like J6 did.

I’m glad I’m

- Old
- Male
- Childless

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/886 "2024-11-06T05:00:25Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Looking at the live map on Yahoo News, they have the current EV total for Harris as 205. By my count that means she has to win WI, MI, PA, GA and NV (or AZ) to put her total over 270. But she has to win them **all**.

If she loses PA she does need all the rest. Otherwise she can lose two of them. However, at this point is is significantly less than a 50 50 chance since she is behind in them all except unreported Nevada.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/887 "2024-11-06T05:00:44Z")

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Harris wins HI.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/888 "2024-11-06T05:01:05Z")

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I know 3 of my co-workers and two of my students voted for Trump. Tomorrow’s going to suck if he wins.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/889 "2024-11-06T05:01:30Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Trump has pledged to deport millions of wokers

That is one promise he cannot keep. It’s just not physically possible.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/890 "2024-11-06T05:01:43Z")

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As I’ve been saying the country was over in 2016 when he first got elected

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**Author:** ![CorpusNeptune](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corpusneptune/32/17561_2.png) [@CorpusNeptune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CorpusNeptune)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/891 "2024-11-06T05:01:50Z")

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Both my mom and dad did. Me and my sister voted Harris though. But still.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/892 "2024-11-06T05:01:57Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Trump has pledged to deport millions of wokers, and to impose significant tariffs on almost all imports. Doing either of those will tank the economy in short order. I expect he will do both.

I sort of expect he will do neither. He might put up a few tariffs, but as soon as they have any economic impact he’ll back down.

He will certainly try to lock up border crossers, and he might try to sign some executive orders requiring asylum seekers to return to wherever they apply from. Both of which suck, don’t get me wrong. But I don’t think he will actually try to do mass deportations - it’s just too logistically difficult, and he doesn’t like doing hard things.

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**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/893 "2024-11-06T05:02:58Z")

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That’s the American reality in late 2024.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/894 "2024-11-06T05:03:29Z")

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That requires him to be smart enough to realize that. Even trying to do it will fuck everything up.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/895 "2024-11-06T05:03:43Z")

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Harris wins VA.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/896 "2024-11-06T05:04:02Z")

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My workplace is a hotbed of Trumpers (to the extent that management had no problems at all when some employees started putting Trump stickers on company toolboxes and other property)… I’m expecting problems, but I’ve got too much going on to call in sick. Remote work isn’t an option, unfortunately (unless we have a plague, which is actually likely now).

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/897 "2024-11-06T05:04:08Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> I sort of expect he will do neither. He might put up a few tariffs, but as soon as they have any economic impact he’ll back down.

Back down? Like, cancel the tariffs after they’ve been implemented? The country who got the tariffs just raise the price anyway.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/898 "2024-11-06T05:04:14Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> and he doesn’t like doing hard things.

He’s going to be focused on keeping himself out of jail and making sure his Truth Social and idiotic crypto makes him money. He’ll be golfing when he isn’t working on those endeavors.

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**Author:** ![split\_p\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19b73/32.png) [@split\_p\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/split_p_j)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/899 "2024-11-06T05:06:00Z")

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Ah, what? There is no chance he goes to jail now.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/900 "2024-11-06T05:06:10Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Back down? Like, cancel the tariffs after they’ve been implemented?

Maybe but more likely he will never even propose them. There are some he can do by executive order, but once the big corporations squeal he won’t do it.

See, he doesn’t really _care_ about these things. He just says what sounds good to him and what his supporters applaud for. If his advisors tell him tariffs are unpopular then he’ll stop talking about them.

He cares about a very small number of thing: his own ego, making and keeping money, and (now) staying out of jail (although that’s obviously not a problem for him anymore).

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