# Election Day Omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 4, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683 "2024-11-04T20:15:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1141 "2024-11-06T09:04:50Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Looking at the number of votes cast, the single biggest factor appears to me to be, tens of millions of people who voted last time stayed home. That’s something that needs to be analyzed. I’m watching TV, so can’t provide a cite, but a few minutes ago there was a comment that Trump 2024 voters were likely to exceed Biden 2020 voters. If “tens of millions of people who voted last time stayed home” then that seems unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1142 "2024-11-06T09:43:31Z")
> [@Wrenching\_Spanners](#): > > If “tens of millions of people who voted last time stayed home” then that seems unlikely. The following Simpsons clip seems to be an accurate depiction of what has happened; [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8fXyeQ1hnSY/maxresdefault.jpg "No on proposition 24 , The Simpson ( spanish subtitles )") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fXyeQ1hnSY) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1143 "2024-11-06T10:07:56Z")
Brief description for those of us who do not want to watch a video? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1144 "2024-11-06T10:19:53Z")
Well, isn’t that something to wake up to? Everything the polls and the experts told us was wrong. Again. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@gytalf3000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf3000)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1145 "2024-11-06T10:29:29Z")
I just woke up, as well. I’m devastated! I hope that Kamala doesn’t concede. There is no way that those evil fuckwits won this thing, honestly. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1146 "2024-11-06T10:35:11Z")
> [@gytalf3000](#): > > I hope that Kamala doesn’t concede. There is no way that those evil fuckwits won this thing, honestly. You sound like Trump. “We lost therefore they cheated” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1147 "2024-11-06T10:37:57Z")
Like I said before, Trump never conceded. Neither should Harris. Let him sweat it out while she says, “I have not conceded.” Donald, your reply? Even if she doesn’t past your win? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1148 "2024-11-06T10:42:07Z")
The difference is, Harris is a grown-up, and believes in democracy. Refusing to concede is what fascists do. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@gytalf3000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf3000)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1149 "2024-11-06T10:42:40Z")
I am all of those things, as well, and I am completely perplexed that Trump has won. So sickening! A truly frightening situation. I am also certain that the Repugnicans won through some sort of their usual shenanigans. Kamala should contest the results. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1150 "2024-11-06T10:43:58Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > The difference is, Harris is a grown-up, and believes in democracy. Refusing to concede is what fascists do. You mean the people who won? If it worked for them…… I don’t really believe this, I’m just very down. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1151 "2024-11-06T10:47:49Z")
I’ve been shell-shocked reading the news all morning. And if I, white straight male who doesn’t even live in the US feel that way, I can’t even imagine what my friends across the ocean are experiencing, particularly those belonging to minorities. Don’t let the bastards grind you down. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1152 "2024-11-06T11:01:14Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > The difference is, Harris is a grown-up, and believes in democracy. Refusing to concede is what fascists do. Refresh my memory. When was the last time a fascist was voted out of office? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1153 "2024-11-06T11:11:10Z")
It’s basically 2004 all over again: - A top 5 worst American president wins despite having shown in his first term how terrible he is. - Not only that, but he wins the popular vote, despite having lost it in the preceding election. - And not only that, but his party has control of Congress too. So I was wrong in the thread I was doing on the topic of how Trump could win. Dead wrong. Deeply wrong. Because I was wrong in a way that I didn’t think was possible and I have not seen advanced much by commenters and posters here: that the American people really, truly wanted Trump and MAGA to run the country. Not a sneaky clinching of the electoral college. Genuine popular support. A mandate. This is what the American people wanted. And they really, truly wanted an imbecilic war criminal to run the country in 2004. But then they wanted Obama in 2008?! And then Trump in 2016?! One could get whiplash. But I think I can say in simple terms why these shifts have happened: modern governance just doesn’t work very well. It doesn’t make people happy. And no wealthy democracy has figured out how to make it work well. So the people here and in other countries accept the template–the paradigm, if you will–of governance while blaming successive politicians and governments for failing them. It’s like switching brands of cough drops for chronic tuberculosis. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1154 "2024-11-06T11:12:06Z")
On a side note, but an important one-if anyone feels the need to step away and seek out counseling and/or mental health resources or even just funny cat videos obviously I encourage you to do so. This is an ugly situation and certainly a shock to the system to many of us. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1155 "2024-11-06T11:16:06Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > > > The difference is, Harris is a grown-up, and believes in democracy. Refusing to concede is what fascists do. > > Refresh my memory. When was the last time a fascist was voted out of office? 2020, when Trump lost to Biden, refused to concede, claimed victory, and tried to steal the election. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1156 "2024-11-06T11:23:58Z")
Nice try, but no. Trump hadn’t gone full fascist, and there were guardrails. If you think the next four years won’t be any worse than his first term, you haven’t been paying attention. There will be no election in 2028. His successor will be crowned. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1157 "2024-11-06T11:36:15Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > If you think the next four years won’t be any worse than his first term, you haven’t been paying attention. I think it will be a lot worse. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1158 "2024-11-06T11:40:21Z")
Then what gives you confidence that anything can be changed at the ballot box? Once fascists take over, they don’t leave, except at the end of a gun. The Tree of Liberty was never watered with votes. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1159 "2024-11-06T11:54:01Z")
Jesus, USA. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? Just read the BBC report that that moron has won. Fuck me with a fish fork. What a disaster. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1160 "2024-11-06T11:59:05Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Fuck me with a fish fork My feelings exactly. So are folks just going to give up? I refuse to just lay down and cry. That doesn’t help anyone and staying home is partly how this happened. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683.md?page=59)