# Election Day Omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 4, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683 "2024-11-04T20:15:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1181 "2024-11-06T13:01:46Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> > [@gytalf3000](#):
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> > Kamala should contest the results.
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> No, Republicans didn’t cheat.

I agree. This is the United States right now. Trump won because he got the votes. Period.

If Harris should be doing anything right now, it’s preparing to make a choice between fleeing the country in advance of Trump’s forces arresting her, or accepting the persecution with head held symbolically high.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1182 "2024-11-06T13:02:36Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> But then I think: Should I really set an example to my kid of disengagement with the world? Shouldn’t I continue to show him it’s important to grapple with facts and reality, even when it disappoints – and that politically engaged, optimistic (yet realistic) work is an important part of a fulfilled life? That you need to be involved in your community and your time in history?
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> I’m truly torn on this. But mainly, now, I am exhausted – and need to ensure my mental grief doesn’t engender physical harm on my body.

I choose all of this. But look after yourself first, of course.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1183 "2024-11-06T13:02:43Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> But the I think: Should I really set an example to my kid of disengagement with the world?

If you have children, it’s a whole different ball game. You can’t pretend the future doesn’t matter, like I can, being old and alone. Feel your way along. Don’t decide today, or even this week.

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**Author:** ![HEMAblerd313](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@HEMAblerd313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HEMAblerd313)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1184 "2024-11-06T13:03:29Z")

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I cant embedded it but I saw a photo of  
Voting demographics according to one place I found…VERY intresting the number of white women who voted for Trump INCREASED (over 60%)…not sure how to explain that one (again besides internal mysonginy and racism)

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1185 "2024-11-06T13:05:18Z")

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Thank you, ThelmaLou and Love\_Rhombus…your words brought me to tears, for the first time this episode.

Good tears. Tears that are starting to unclench my inner knot.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1186 "2024-11-06T13:11:21Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> If Harris should be doing anything right now, it’s preparing to make a choice between fleeing the country in advance of Trump’s forces arresting her, or accepting the persecution with head held symbolically high.

If and when that happens, I don’t see how life isn’t completely over for those who don’t agree with him, honestly. In which case, I’d be curious to know your thoughts [on my other thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-what-should-people-on-the-left-do/1009778).

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You can’t pretend the future doesn’t matter, like I can, being old and alone.

I’m glad you specified “pretend” here…

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1187 "2024-11-06T13:32:05Z")

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Sorry to butt in, but did Harris…_lose_ the popular vote?

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1188 "2024-11-06T13:34:53Z")

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Probably, yes.

Although it looks like perhaps the worst wipeouts were avoided in the Senate? Maybe Baldwin and Slotkin will just barely win.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1189 "2024-11-06T13:35:11Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> If and when that happens, I don’t see how life isn’t completely over for those who don’t agree with him, honestly.

I think the only saving grace for the many, many people on trump’s enemies list is that, while his vengeful nature is awfully strong, it’s likely still superseded by his colossal laziness and complete lack of attention span. I predict, especially in his declining years, that now he’s back in the office he will once again sink into a routine of big blocks of ‘executive time’ watching Fox News, or golfing.

Of course, he will have many minions busily working on tearing down government institutions, ruining the lives of immigrants, and such, but I think (perhaps wishful thinking?) that his revenge talk is mostly BS.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1190 "2024-11-06T13:37:37Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Of course, he will have many minions in office busily working on tearing down government institutions, ruining the lives of immigrants, and such, but I think (perhaps wishful thinking?) that his revenge talk is mostly BS.

We will see. He certainly didn’t follow through on “lock her up” with Hillary.

I think he will try to kowtow the press, but for now at least even this SCOTUS has been pretty damn firm on free speech rights. He may go after Hunter or something, but that’s nothing a full pardon can’t fix.

The big questions will be just how far the 52 or so Senators are willing to go in his more aggressive ideas. My hunch is not very - they like to win elections. But I could be wrong and this will be the time they make the big push to scale back voting rights extremely in order to maintain power.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1191 "2024-11-06T13:47:35Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> it’s likely still superseded by his colossal laziness and complete lack of attention span. …
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> Of course, he will have many minions busily working …

Yeah - 1/2 of the population with control of all 3 branches and powerful institutions will not be slowed by TFG’s laziness. He won’t care enough to slow their roll. We’ll see if any “moderates” on the right have ANY shame or respect for ANY vestiges of what American purportedly valued. (I fear I know the answer.)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1192 "2024-11-06T13:51:19Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> In which case, I’d be curious to know your thoughts [on my other thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-what-should-people-on-the-left-do/1009778).

I saw that, but I don’t feel like I have anything to contribute, considering that my situation as an overseas resident is vastly different from the reality of stateside Americans and my personal to-do list (finish moving remaining investments out of the U.S., accelerate process of securing alternative citizenship) is far from helpful advice for anyone but me.

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**Author:** ![Cmyers1980](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyers1980/32/11814_2.png) [@Cmyers1980](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cmyers1980)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1193 "2024-11-06T13:52:09Z")

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[A relevant tweet from Jason Hickel.](https://x.com/jasonhickel/status/1854107107743682797)

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1194 "2024-11-06T13:55:28Z")

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From the Dept. of Silver Linings:

While my state of Kentucky is heavily red (except for the governor) and was the first to be declared by ABC News online last night as having gone for Trump, voters delivered [a resounding defeat](https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/election/article294996519.html#storylink=cpy) to the “school choice” movement.

> [@](#):
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> Kentucky voters on Tuesday rejected a proposal to amend the state constitution and allow the legislature to spend tax dollars on private, religious and charter schools. The outcome was a blow to Republican leadership in the General Assembly who championed the proposal — Constitutional Amendment 2 — and put it on the ballot as one of two statewide referendums. As of 9:30 p.m., with and estimated 84% of the commonwealth’s votes counted, nearly 65% of voters had rejected the amendment, and 35% had approved it. Protect Our Schools KY, the group leading the ‘No on 2’ campaign, declared victory around 8 p.m. Kelsey Coots, the campaign manager for Protect Our Schools KY, said the success of their effort is the result of teachers, students, parents and community leaders across the commonwealth working as a team. “People coming together to send a powerful message that we believe in the promise of public education, and we will not stand by as that promise undermined,” Coots said.

> [@](#):
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> Kentucky Students First, a group backing the ‘Yes on 2’ effort, released a statement soon after that read: “The results may not have been in our favor.

😄

My county voted yes on permitting the sale of medical marijuana, by one of the largest margins in the state (each county got to decide whether to allow sales within its borders).

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1195 "2024-11-06T13:57:29Z")

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There’s your problem. Our side said that about 2008, where it certainly was a hyperbolic exaggeration. Here we are, in 2024, with that situation being much closer to reality - and no one listens to us anymore…

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1196 "2024-11-06T14:51:24Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Sorry to butt in, but did Harris…_lose_ the popular vote?

With the disclaimer that not everything is counted yet, she got _smoked_ in the popular vote. Yahoo News tells me that as of the time of this writing, Harris has ~66 million votes to Trump’s ~71 million.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1197 "2024-11-06T15:15:57Z")

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One good bit of news. Jeff Jackson won the NC Attorney General race. It’s a hard road but I’m still hoping he will be the future of the Democratic Party. After being gerrymandered out of Congress it’s good he followed it up with a win. At least that keeps his political life alive.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1198 "2024-11-06T15:29:31Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> With the disclaimer that not everything is counted yet, she got _smoked_ in the popular vote. Yahoo News tells me that as of the time of this writing, Harris has ~66 million votes to Trump’s ~71 million.

I did see that. What I mean is: Has anyone projected out the vote totals? I am guessing she can not make up the difference?

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1199 "2024-11-06T15:32:14Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> I think the only saving grace for the many, many people on trump’s enemies list is that, while his vengeful nature is awfully strong, it’s likely still superseded by his colossal laziness and complete lack of attention span. I predict, especially in his declining years, that now he’s back in the office he will once again sink into a routine of big blocks of ‘executive time’ watching Fox News, or golfing.

Doubtful. He knows this is his last term, and will probably double-down. I’m not even sure if our system of checks-and-balances can prevent the damage he wants to inflict.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/1200 "2024-11-06T15:32:41Z")

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Pretty much. Trump won and won big. No way to sugar coat it. I am completely disgusted.

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