# Election Day Omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 4, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683 "2024-11-04T20:15:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/121 "2024-11-05T16:12:57Z")

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That’s going to be harder this year. Something like half of all voters voted early, so exit polls are less reliable.  
82K voted early

> **[How many Americans have already voted in the 2024 general election? | AP News](https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/2024-early-voting-tracker/)**
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> Almost two-thirds of voters cast an early ballot in 2020. Here's how advance voting is progressing in 2024.

160k registered voters

> **[Topic: 2024 U.S. Presidential Election](https://www.statista.com/topics/11901/2024-us-presidential-election/#topicOverview)**
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> Discover all statistics and data on 2024 U.S. Presidential Election now on statista.com!

Some states are slow to count the mail-in ballots, including critical Pennsylvania. PA will likely take days, and might take weeks, to count the vote. There will probably be a couple of states that are too close to call early in the evening, as well.

I expect we’ll get a lot of results shortly after polls close, but they will mostly be in states where we already have an extremely good idea of the results.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/122 "2024-11-05T16:14:34Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Not always if it’s very close.

In those cases, they still release the current numbers.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/123 "2024-11-05T16:16:54Z")

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> [@opiewan](#):
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> I think the networks announce Harris as the winner before some of us go to bed tonight.

Depending on the Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia and North Carolina, we may have Nevada and Arizona out of play when the Eastern Time Zone polls close. At worst wait for Wisconsin (CST) polls.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/124 "2024-11-05T16:20:15Z")

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Current numbers can be misleading, as there are structural and geographic biases as to which votes are reported when. Early votes may be counted before or after election day voters. Suburbs may report before either cities or rural areas.

I’m expecting to wait a few days for results. Unless it’s a blow out one way or the other.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/125 "2024-11-05T16:24:08Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Current numbers can be misleading, as there are structural and geographic biases as to which votes are reported when.

You would think that by now psephologists would have developed mathematics to deal with almost all of these issues.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/126 "2024-11-05T16:25:12Z")

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I’m still trying to understand why the media hypes up the fact that Republicans (or Democrats, for that matter) vote early. It simply cannibalizes the Election-Day vote itself. Unless they are arguing that the parties will get more early-votes **plus** their usual Election Day votes.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/127 "2024-11-05T16:26:44Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> But, in chronicling the list of people who should or should not be allowed to vote in local elections, one of the groups of people that they’re wanting to exclude is listed under bullet point #3, which includes the group (I’ll include a picture of bullet point #3 [here](https://imgur.com/a/Eyd3T8w), and I’m quoting directly from the ballot, “idiots and insane persons.”

Unless _idiot_ and _insane person_ are defined in that ballot measure or elsewhere in state law, I would expect courts to rule it unconstitutionally vague. However, to get standing to contest that provision, someone would have to be excluded from voting based on it. So it would likely be a dead letter in practice.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/128 "2024-11-05T16:28:04Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Current numbers can be misleading, as there are structural and geographic biases as to which votes are reported when. Early votes may be counted before or after election day voters. Suburbs may report before either cities or rural areas.
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> I’m expecting to wait a few days for results. Unless it’s a blow out one way or the other.

This may well be true. But Kornacki says there will be some early returns that _could be_ strong indicators of the national race—e.g., Georgia. And he said it could be very encouraging for Harris even if she loses the state, depending upon how she does in certain counties.

I will be glued to MSNBC this evening. His “_and here’s why this is important_” explanations are absolutely awesome.

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**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/129 "2024-11-05T16:28:28Z")

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In Cambria County, PA they are extending voting hours due to “technical issues” with voting machines this morning.

> **[Pennsylvania county files order to extend voting time after scanning error](https://www.wtae.com/article/pennsylvania-voting-machine-error-cambria-county/62816240)**
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> "The Board has filed a Court Order extending the time to vote within Cambria County. No one should be turned away from the polls if they wish to cast their vote."

In 2020, TFG won Cambria County 68% - 31% over Biden (48,000 votes to 22,000 votes).

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/130 "2024-11-05T16:30:41Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> 82K voted early  
> …  
> 160k registered voters

I think you mean million, not thousand.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/131 "2024-11-05T16:30:52Z")

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> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#):
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> In Cambria County, PA they are extending voting hours due to “technical issues” with voting machines this morning.
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> In 2020, TFG won Cambria County 68% - 31% over Biden (48,000 votes to 22,000 votes).

Sigh…that’s bad news then. This decision could end up letting more Trump voters in Cambria have the chance to vote. In a swing state.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/132 "2024-11-05T16:31:58Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> This decision could end up letting more Trump voters in Cambria have the chance to vote. In a swing state.

I want Trump to lose as much as anyone, but letting everyone have a chance to vote is a good thing.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/133 "2024-11-05T16:36:20Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> I will be glued to MSNBC this evening. His “_and here’s why this is important_” explanations are absolutely awesome.

You and me both. The man is a phenom with elections coverage.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/134 "2024-11-05T16:36:30Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Unless _idiot_ and _insane person_ are defined in that ballot measure or elsewhere in state law,

“Idiot” is a person with an IQ between 0-25, “Imbecile” is a person with an IQ between 26-50, “Moron” is a person with an IQ between 51-70. There has been precedent for hese definitions in court so I don’t think the state needs to define them.  
My question is, was the state using IQ tests to disenfranchise people previously? Or is this just poison pill language. Would disenfranchising citizens with low IQs even be constitutional?

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/135 "2024-11-05T16:50:25Z")

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This is going to be such a long day. Anyone else have problems sleeping last night due to anxiety, or just me?

If I see one more distant relative voice their approval of Trump in my facebook feed, I’m going to puke.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/136 "2024-11-05T16:52:44Z")

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Not many problems. Daylight Saving Time made a larger impact, since I naturally awoke 1 hour before I normally do, but thankfully was able to fall back asleep.

Tonight will be another story. The election will not likely be decided firmly enough to not want to wake up throughout the night to find news about the count.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/137 "2024-11-05T16:53:32Z")

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I’m traveling tomorrow, leaving work early to head for the airport for a flight to Germany. I’ll probably be watching MSNBC this evening for as long as I can stand the stress (unless things…nope, not going to jinx it). Really hoping things are decisive by the morning. I’ve been overseas on election day before, but the stakes were much lower that time. Plus, Europeans often mistake me for an American (for some reason especially the Welsh, not sure what that’s about) so I don’t want my accent to make me a target of agressively conversational anything (good or bad).

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/138 "2024-11-05T16:53:57Z")

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> [@Disinfectus](#):
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> This is going to be such a long day. Anyone else have problems sleeping last night due to anxiety, or just me?

Yup, I slept only from about 4 AM to 8 AM, and even then only fitfully, waking up multiple times. I’m usually the kind to sleep all the way til 10:20. My dreams had election related themes too.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/139 "2024-11-05T16:57:29Z")

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Not hearing any reports of polling place fuck-ups or skulduggery so far, so that’s good.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-omnibus-thread/1009683/140 "2024-11-05T16:59:43Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> > [@Stratocaster](#):
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> > I will be glued to MSNBC this evening. His “_and here’s why this is important_” explanations are absolutely awesome.
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> You and me both. The man is a phenom with elections coverage.

Add me to the Kornacki fan base!

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