# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2344 "2020-11-05T17:27:58Z")

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Any word on how much is left to count, from that source?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2345 "2020-11-05T17:28:56Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> Worst cocktail ever. You need worcestershire sauce for that…

Don’t judge me. Refreshing webpages for 48 hours straight takes a toll on a man and his life choices suffer.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2346 "2020-11-05T17:29:10Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> > [@JohnT](#):
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> > Can I just remark that it is appearing that the GOP institutionalists have already conceded?
> > 
> > … McConnell is talking about how he’s going to stymie Biden.
> > 
> > … The legal team sent to fight for Trump is not the typical GOP insider legal teams, it’s just Rudy, Bondi, and Sekulow. (This is a big tell, imho.)
> 
> Don’t forget Eric. He’s the Trump family poster boy for losing.  
> I think part of the reason his legal team is who they are is any _real_ lawyer would demand payment up front, cash or certified check only , or maybe just cash.
> 
> But apparently his base expects a fight, so a fight they will get.
> 
> There were signs a few weeks ago that Mitch McConnell might have serious health problems. My thoughts and prayers are going out because the Dem governor would appoint his replacement.  
> That would just be the perfect way to end his his career.

Joe should make him Secretary of State or something. He can always take it back once the Senate turns blue.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2347 "2020-11-05T17:29:18Z")

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It’s worth pointing out that when the final vote is tallied, Biden will have won by between 4-6% and this is still a nail biter. Discussions about the merits and drawbacks of the electoral college aside, this is not healthy.

Nate Silver: “I’m not a decision desk, but I suppose I think Nevada is on the verge of being callable at this point. Two-thirds of the state’s population is in Clark County and Biden is gaining big in Clark County! Not sure I see the route for a Trump comeback.”

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2348 "2020-11-05T17:30:26Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> You have got to be kidding. 🙄
> 
> Is that permit application to repaint the crosswalk by the middle school or to approve Mr. Smith’s new in-ground sprinkler system really more important than counting the votes that may determine the next President?
> 
> Do they not realize there is a hard deadline to report results?

One, it’s already been reported that they stopped because of a court order.

Two, poll workers are people specifically hired to do this. Many, traditionally, are students, retirees or SAHP or other people without regular employment. The rest are people taking time off work. It is paid, but not well. The hours are brutal–they tell you to expect a 16 hour day. This year, it’s especially dangerous, because while they are masked, they are still around a lot of other people and handling a lot of paper that comes from god knows where.

So, like, cut them some slack. They are doing a great thing for democracy, at real risk and personal cost.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2349 "2020-11-05T17:30:49Z")

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I may get a second opinion but I certainly don’t just assume I am right because I do not like what they are telling me.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2350 "2020-11-05T17:30:59Z")

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Why should the election be any different from the rest of 2020?

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2351 "2020-11-05T17:31:57Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > I have NBC on in the background. Just now there was a “BREAKING NEWS” alert…
> > 
> > And it turned out to be a break in a years-old cold case murder. It felt wrong to be angry and frustrated over news that there was a break in an old murder investigation. Does that make me a bad person?
> 
> Well, no… _unless you’re the killer!_

That’s why I was so angry and frustrated to hear it. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go buy plane tickets to some country that doesn’t have a U.S. Covid ban or an extradition treaty. Going to be slim pickin’s…

I probably shouldn’t joke about it. I’m happy they’ve made arrests in the investigation and I hope it brings the victim’s family some peace and closure.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2352 "2020-11-05T17:32:37Z")

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So apparently you can’t make edits to your post if someone is already quoting you. Anyway, here is the edit I was trying to make:

ETA: Reading further I see the actual reason is an agreement to wait on counting some disputed ballots…

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2353 "2020-11-05T17:33:32Z")

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**PA** : [https://electionreturns.pa.gov/](https://electionreturns.pa.gov/)  
**NV** : [https://silverstateelection.nv.gov/USPresidential/](https://silverstateelection.nv.gov/USPresidential/)  
**GA** : [Election Night Reporting](https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/105369/web.264614/#/summary)  
**Georgia** just updated: 13,600 Trump still ahead.

**NC** : [NC SBE Contest Results](https://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/03/2020&county_id=0&office=FED&contest=1373)

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2354 "2020-11-05T17:37:42Z")

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Per the NYT, there was also a lawsuit that granted GOP observers in Philly that is being appealed. So the count in Philly was briefly paused, but has now resumed while the state SC considers the appeal

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2355 "2020-11-05T17:38:20Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> **NV** : [https://silverstateelection.nv.gov/USPresidential/](https://silverstateelection.nv.gov/USPresidential/)

So, if Jo Jorgenson were not running, I’m assuming those votes would be Trump’s, right? If so, giving her 11,633 votes to Trump would make Nevada a tie at this point.

And what’s the deal with someone voting “none-of-the-above” in an election of this magnitude?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2356 "2020-11-05T17:38:53Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Per the NYT, there was also a lawsuit that granted GOP observers in Philly that is being appealed.

Not sure why they would bother to appeal this. Who cares if the observers get to stand a little closer?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2357 "2020-11-05T17:39:21Z")

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Do any tech savvy types know why screaming “F5, G-ddammit !” doesn’t work ?

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2358 "2020-11-05T17:40:06Z")

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I know all that. My post was more tongue in cheek than anything else. For one thing, the people doing the actual counting aren’t the ones making these decisions.

(Regarding the court decision/agreement, I was actually trying to append that to the end of my post, but was getting blocked by Discourse. Apparently you can’t edit your post if people are already quoting you?)

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2359 "2020-11-05T17:40:52Z")

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Which is a weird thing since they already have observers in there (both sides do…normal practice).

I can only assume they want to delay and also have any possible claim they were robbed…no matter how thin.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2360 "2020-11-05T17:41:13Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> Two, poll workers are people specifically hired to do this. Many, traditionally, are students, retirees or SAHP or other people without regular employment. The rest are people taking time off work. It is paid, but not well. The hours are brutal–they tell you to expect a 16 hour day. This year, it’s especially dangerous, because while they are masked, they are still around a lot of other people and handling a lot of paper that comes from god knows where.
> 
> So, like, cut them some slack. They are doing a great thing for democracy, at real risk and personal cost.

Seconded. My wife volunteered this year and put in the 16-hour day you mention, starting at 5 a.m. They were not allowed to refuse entry to people without masks. Now she’s quarantining in our basement until she can get tested, probably Saturday. Yay, democracy!

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2361 "2020-11-05T17:41:18Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> > [@robby](#):
> >
> > You have got to be kidding. 🙄
> > 
> > Is that permit application to repaint the crosswalk by the middle school or to approve Mr. Smith’s new in-ground sprinkler system really more important than counting the votes that may determine the next President?
> > 
> > Do they not realize there is a hard deadline to report results?
> 
> One, it’s already been reported that they stopped because of a court order.
> 
> Two, poll workers are people specifically hired to do this. Many, traditionally, are students, retirees or SAHP or other people without regular employment. The rest are people taking time off work. It is paid, but not well. The hours are brutal–they tell you to expect a 16 hour day. This year, it’s especially dangerous, because while they are masked, they are still around a lot of other people and handling a lot of paper that comes from god knows where.
> 
> So, like, cut them some slack. They are doing a great thing for democracy, at real risk and personal cost.

My argument is that if AOC can draw 17 million for a congressional campaign and her opponent can draw 10 million in a district she won by 38 points, there has to be a way to find money to set up a vote counting system that is better than this one. I do recognize AOC and Cummings’ money comes from donors and the money to pay vote counters would come from somewhere else. My point is there seems to be a massive economic imbalance in the electoral system that needs to change.

This is not to denigrate vote counters. Quite the opposite. They should be paid more money and there should be a lot more of them.

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2362 "2020-11-05T17:43:41Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Do any tech savvy types know why screaming “F5, G-ddammit !” doesn’t work ?

You need to scream and press at the same time. It’s also important to keep your eyes on the top right corner of the F and push through the button.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2363 "2020-11-05T17:44:16Z")

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Nate Cohn says, while still unofficial, you can pencil Nevada into the Biden column at this point.

> <https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324404944250830848>

This would make the AP’s and Fox News’ call of Arizona for Biden a bit…dangerous. Nevada getting called for Biden, while Arizona is still counting ever-tightening results, would mean the race _could_ be called for Biden, and then rescinded (possibly temporarily) if Arizona starts looking hinky.

ETA: Nate Silver sees a similar problem with Arizona’s (possibly premature) call:

> A little inside baseball, but this dynamic may affect how different networks are handling Nevada. If you’ve called Arizona (which I don’t think you should have!), then a Nevada call would give Biden the election. But Nevada is probably callable at this point!

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