# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 125
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2484 "2020-11-05T19:57:21Z")
The current estimate is that Biden won by 4-6%. We can’t continue to be a country where a smaller and smaller minority makes the rules for everyone else. That’s how revolutions happen. That’s actually when revolutions are supposed to happen. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2485 "2020-11-05T19:58:01Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Okay, just to sum up where things are right now as I understand it: nothing is certain, but right now, given the information we know, you’d rather be Biden than Trump. Is this correct? Pretty much, as said by @iiandyiii. I can’t believe how much the results have stalled, though. Election night was fun (like watching a sports event – we literally had the popcorn out) but last night was 100% filler on CNN with no real movement. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t see the optimism for PA. And I predict a recount in GA regardless of who comes out ahead. But as they said on CBC News just this afternoon, Biden only has to win AZ+NV and/or one of the major battleground states, while Trump pretty much has to win all of them. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2486 "2020-11-05T20:00:07Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > But as they said on CBC News just this afternoon, Biden only has to win AZ+NV and/or one of the major battleground states, while Trump pretty much has to win all of them. Biden only has to win AZ+NV period, though that puts him only just over the top at 270. EDIT: if you remove the ‘and’ from the and/or, your statement is totally correct. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2487 "2020-11-05T20:00:30Z")
The Straight Dope: watch PA Secretary of State Boockvar give the numbers during her interview on CNN. > **[November 5, 2020 US election news](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-biden-election-results-11-05-20/h_63b67a7c86bcf6d3a56df2ad92de3b2d)** > > Donald Trump and Joe Biden each need 270 electoral votes to win the presidency. Follow here for the latest updates on voting and election results. A video I could find on some random site: ['Majority' of Pennsylvania Votes Done Thursday: Kathy Boockvar](https://www.mediaite.com/news/majority-of-pennsylvania-votes-should-be-counted-by-end-of-thursday-secretary-of-state-says/) About 100k remaining in Philly, 30k in the surrounding counties, I think it was 30-40k in Alleghany, the rest spread across the state. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2488 "2020-11-05T20:01:42Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Biden only has to win AZ+NV period, though that puts him only just over the top at 270. Right, but then the worry is rat-fuckery at the Electoral College. It only takes one rat-fucker to change the balance. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2489 "2020-11-05T20:04:07Z")
Very true. I’ve been hearing a lot of good things about PA though, so I am optimistic. If Biden holds onto AZ+NV AND pulls PA, that puts him at a comfortable 290. Don’t think trump will be able to bribe 21 electors. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2490 "2020-11-05T20:08:55Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > The Straight Dope: watch PA Secretary of State Boockvar give the numbers during her interview on CNN. Quote from the PA SoS: > “I think we definitely could” know the result in Pennsylvania by the end of the day today, Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar told CNN Thursday. I thought a hold was put on Allegheny Co. vote counts until tomorrow afternoon due to trump legal team chicanery. Can PA be projected without all those votes? ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2491 "2020-11-05T20:15:22Z")
I think Allegheny is only about 35,000 votes, if I’m remembering right. With the margins Biden’s been getting, he’d be well ahead with the rest of the outstanding ballots. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2492 "2020-11-05T20:16:00Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Can PA be projected without all those votes? It’s about 35,000 votes that should skew strongly Biden. If Biden is ahead everywhere else by tonight it will just increase his lead. Allegheny is only vital if it comes down to a Georgia situation where Trump is still holding a razor-thin lead. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2493 "2020-11-05T20:16:19Z")
I would say a Biden win is 95% maybe 99%. You just have to look at PA. As per Gogi Gupta’s spreadsheet, Biden needs 61% of the remaining vote to win. Of the 12 updates that he has posted Biden’s lowest share has been 66% and just today there were two with 83%. Perhaps that will change drastically but no one seems to believe that. If there is some astonishing reversal in PA, Biden has a very solid alternate path through NV/AZ. NV seems all but certain and while my understanding is that AZ is complicated, Biden appears to be in a strong position. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2494 "2020-11-05T20:16:34Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > I think Allegheny is only about 35,000 votes, if I’m remembering right. With the margins Biden’s been getting, he’d be well ahead with the rest of the outstanding ballots. Cool. PA in the Biden column tonight would make for an awfully restful night’s sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2495 "2020-11-05T20:17:29Z")
So the Georgia SoS says they have about 47,277 ballots remaining as of 3:15ET. At 1:15ET they had 50k. So in 2 hours they processed 3k ballots. At that pace, they will be done in just under 16 hours… I think we should all just go do something else for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2496 "2020-11-05T20:20:04Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > It only takes one rat-fucker to change the balance. Who should now be aware that Trump _never_ pays his debts unless sued. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2497 "2020-11-05T20:24:36Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > > > If anything, it sounds like these poor folks may be dragging their feet to ensure that they are NOT the tipping point. > > Which would make more sense, since if Pennsylvania tips blue it’ll put Biden over on its own; so waiting doesn’t guarantee they’ll be the tipping state. It’s occured to me that either explanation would imply that they expect Nevada’s going for Biden. There’s no way they’re a tipping point if they now say they’re going for Trump. Of course, we’re also just making up motivations. For all I know, the weather’s great there and expected to storm Saturday and they’ve got other things to do before winter hits. Or, most likely, they’re just very very carefully inspecting each ballot and making sure they get it right. ---
**Author:** ![tingbudong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tingbudong/32/520_2.png) [@tingbudong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tingbudong)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2498 "2020-11-05T20:24:47Z")
It’s pretty scary how unwinded the conservative subreddits and message boards are becoming…this is going to get ugly. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2499 "2020-11-05T20:25:37Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > I think we should all just go do something else for awhile. Then who’s going to sit at my computer and refresh every five minutes? ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2500 "2020-11-05T20:27:21Z")
I take a small amount of pleasure knowing this process is tormenting Trump even more than me. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2501 "2020-11-05T20:27:43Z")
> [@tingbudong](#): > > It’s pretty scary how unwinded the conservative subreddits and message boards are becoming…this is going to get ugly. I looked at r/conservative when you brought it up yesterday and the mood seemed definitely deflated. Not a lot of fight in them. Seemed more like resignation. Why do you say it will get ugly? Is their rhetorical ire up today? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2502 "2020-11-05T20:27:56Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > I take a small amount of pleasure knowing this process is tormenting Trump even more than me. That must be true. It’s a slow motion fall down a canyon and he can’t stop it. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2503 "2020-11-05T20:29:02Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > So the Georgia SoS says they have about 47,277 ballots remaining as of 3:15ET. At 1:15ET they had 50k. So in 2 hours they processed 3k ballots. At that pace, they will be done in just under 16 hours… And now this from GA: “We can’t know how long the process will take,” said Gabriel Sterling, a Georgia election official. Well, yes we can. You have a number outstanding, you have a processing rate, you do some math. If you want to go faster, you add resources. Why is this so difficult? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=124) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=126)