# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2504 "2020-11-05T20:30:35Z")

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Worse than that, even. 32 hours by your numbers - 3K per 2 hours = 48K per 32 hours.

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**Author:** ![Jabo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aeb1de/32.png) [@Jabo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jabo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2505 "2020-11-05T20:31:11Z")

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That’s very likely what’s going on. One reason I’ve been calling over the last few weeks is because my mail-in, which I dropped off in person, was still showing as not having been received. The supervisors I talked to all assured me they are just swamped by mail-ins and haven’t got around to processing all of them even if I did a drop-off weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2506 "2020-11-05T20:31:56Z")

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I don’t know if its all that crazy. Both sides (GOP, Dems) are trying to eat into each other’s pie. An equilibrium would be 50% (duh). If the percentage got too out of whack you’d expect the losing side to change tactics to get back in the game. So, in some ways an even split is what you’d normally expect.

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2507 "2020-11-05T20:33:39Z")

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Five minutes? You have the patience of a monk, sir or madam.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2508 "2020-11-05T20:33:52Z")

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I love that thought. There is no winner yet but I hope Trump is shitting his pants watching all of this.

My only worry if Biden wins is how dangerous Trump may become before he is out in two months (assuming Biden wins).

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2509 "2020-11-05T20:33:57Z")

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> I take a small amount of pleasure knowing this process is tormenting Trump even more than me.

I’m looking forward to the all-caps, totally unhinged tweets from trump if and when PA goes blue.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2510 "2020-11-05T20:36:41Z")

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Yeah, I’ve been swamped with work today. Keep checking every half hour-- still nothing. I am fearful Biden only keeps NV and AZ. That can only bring more crap from the orange turd for another couple months and beyond.

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**Author:** ![tingbudong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tingbudong/32/520_2.png) [@tingbudong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tingbudong)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2511 "2020-11-05T20:40:18Z")

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To me, at least, it seems it has increased a lot. Every other post is about fraud…usually starting off with “It’s pretty clear to me that the is substantial cheating with mail-in votes…”, or along that line. ZERO evidence is provided for anything, with maybe a bizarre reference to a fucking tweet some stain like Charlie Kirk is spitting. People are eating it up.

Flames are being fanned hard.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2512 "2020-11-05T20:41:19Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Biden needs 63% of the remaining ballots to win Georgia. Of the votes counted and announced so far today he’s won 69.67%

I had really written off GA because, you know, GA. I am trying to clamp down on my growing hope there so I’m not massively disappointed later.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2513 "2020-11-05T20:42:54Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> I’m looking forward to the all-caps, totally unhinged tweets from trump if and when PA goes blue.

Too late.

> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1324401527663058944>

~Max

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2514 "2020-11-05T20:45:23Z")

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I mentioned this upthread, but Mr. Trump claimed victory last night. Ever since, the focus in right-wing social media has been hard on voter fraud.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2515 "2020-11-05T20:45:40Z")

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Are there any prominent Republicans who are echoing this?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2516 "2020-11-05T20:46:57Z")

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You haven’t been paying attention. He’s already to the all-caps, totally unhinged tweet point.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2517 "2020-11-05T20:48:00Z")

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538 update:

[AMELIA THOMSON-DEVEAUX](https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/amelia-thomson-deveaux/)

[NOV. 5, 3:32 PM](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/295046/)

A couple of updates on the legal front. First, the Trump campaign prevailed in [its lawsuit](https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/7325287/11-5-20-PA-Observation-1094-CD-2020-Opinion.pdf) against the Philadelphia County Board of Elections at the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, as the court found that the Trump campaign’s observer was unable to “actually observe the canvassing processes in any meaningful way.”

[In a separate case](https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324440873816514561?s=20) involving the Pennsylvania deadline for verifying mail-in voters’ identification[,](https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324440873816514561?s=20) a state court also issued an order telling election boards to temporarily segregate mail-in ballots where proof of identification is received between Nov. 10-12, pending further orders from the court. (It’s unclear how many ballots we’re talking about here, and it may not matter unless the margin is extremely close.)

Finally, [Republicans withdrew](https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1324436635182915584?s=20) their motion for a temporary restraining order involving ballots that were corrected or “cured” in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania (there’s another lawsuit that addresses ballot curing pending, and the judge in this case seemed pretty skeptical of the claims).

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2518 "2020-11-05T20:48:37Z")

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Rudy Giuliani and Eric Trump were:

> **[Fact Check: Rudy Giuliani and Eric Trump's press conference was filled with...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/politics/eric-rudy-pa-presser-fact-check/index.html)**
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> After announcing the Trump campaign's plan to pursue a series of lawsuits at an event billed as a press conference in Philadelphia, the President's son, Eric Trump, and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, didn't take questions from the media....

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2519 "2020-11-05T20:49:47Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> It’s unclear how many ballots we’re talking about here, and it may not matter unless the margin is extremely close.

I believe the Secretary of State said it was up to 500 ballots in some counties.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2520 "2020-11-05T20:50:38Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> 538 update:  
> … the court found that the Trump campaign’s observer was unable to “actually observe the canvassing processes in any meaningful way.”

See! Fraud!

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2521 "2020-11-05T20:51:50Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> > [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> > the court found that the Trump campaign’s observer was unable to “actually observe the canvassing processes in any meaningful way.”
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> See! Fraud!

Yeah. I took the first statement to mean “was asked to leave his firearm outside the building.”

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2522 "2020-11-05T20:52:04Z")

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Nevermind

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2523 "2020-11-05T20:52:14Z")

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I’m not crazy about how long it’s taking, and I’d like it to be faster for my anxiety’s sake, but I’m sort of glad that most of the votes are coming in in dribs and drabs.

On election night, I think it was on 538 that they had a graph up of the percent counted for some state, and a large batch of votes came in that made a vertical jump in the graph. They commented that they were getting questions about it.

I think similarly, a slow, inexorable crawl up for Biden votes lends itself less to conspiracy theories and narratives in that vein. People slowly see the writing in the wall. If suddenly PA reported all of the rest of its votes, people would be much more suspicious – even if they did so while counting at the same rate. The slow, steady updates are good.

Places that hold their updates and announce bigger changes at a time might have people reacting more strongly and being more open to fictional narratives. (This is just my theory, based primarily on people’s tendency – and I think Trump voters’ in particular – toward motivated reasoning.)

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