# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2544 "2020-11-05T21:11:20Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Still a thin hope for the Senate (scroll down): [https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/05/us/trump-biden)

That is not the tiniest sliver of a morsel of hope. There is no way a Dem wins either runoff in GA if it comes to that.

Both are already running behind the Republican, and the January vote will be nowhere near as close. Assuming Biden wins, motivation will be much lower on the D side than the R. I predict landslides in both.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2545 "2020-11-05T21:13:30Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I’m okay with running a campaign that condemns racism but nevertheless speaks to people who have biases and prejudices. I think part of the problem is that there are some progressives or democrats, who aren’t. And you lose potential allies that way.

What allies?

I have been waiting for these supposed rational republicans and only now, at the 11th hour, when it seems Trump may go down, do we see just a few of them (which seems self serving).

We are here still waiting to see who won in an election where one guy is a provable disaster and terrible in pretty much all respects. Nearly 50% of voters went for that.

So I ask again, where are the potential allies?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2546 "2020-11-05T21:20:06Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Both are already running behind the Republican

Not true.

Loeffler ( R ) is behind Warnock (D) (26% to 32.7%)

Perdue ( R ) is ahead of Ossoff (D) (50% to 47.7%)

That said dems are super, super bad at turnout for runoff elections so I do not hold out a lot of hope either for this.

\*NOTE: I had to do that weird ( R ) thing because if the parenthesis are where they should be you get (R)

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2547 "2020-11-05T21:26:51Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Just to give a sense of Biden’s chances in PA… he needs 61% of remaining votes. The latest update saw another 34k votes announced. Biden won 70.3% of these and that’s the lowest percentage of any PA announcement so far today. And yet Philadelphia County, where Biden has 80% of the existing votes, still hasn’t announced its 100k remaining votes. PA is Biden’s.

As of right now, the Post shows that Trump’s lead in PA is down to 97K.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2548 "2020-11-05T21:27:54Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> \*NOTE: I had to do that weird ( R ) thing because if the parenthesis are where they should be you get ®

I think you can use a backslash \ before each parenthesis as an escape character. Like this:  
\(R\)

Let’s see:  
(R)

It worked!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2549 "2020-11-05T21:31:55Z")

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Glad I made this post, because since then…

> <https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324453498897932289?s=19>

[https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1324461436224053251?s=19](https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1324461436224053251?s=19)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2550 "2020-11-05T21:32:42Z")

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My retort: Stacey Abrams. She’s the reason for this in the first place.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2551 "2020-11-05T21:34:13Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> > [@Babale](#):
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> > The conspiracy theories are already out in full force on FB today. “Everyone _I_ know in Arizona fled California for being too blue and voted Trump! This must be fraud!”
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> Moving and then voting is fraud?

I think what’s meant is ‘everyone I personally know in Arizona voted for Trump; therefore Arizona as a whole must have voted for Trump; therefore if there are any significant number of Biden votes in Arizona they must be fraudulent.’

Which, as Babale said, is conspirancy theory territory, because clause 2 doesn’t actually follow from clause 1.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Is this 50 dems or 48 dems + 2 independents?

I think it’s 48 D plus two independents who caucus with the D’s and are expected to keep doing so. – one of them’s Sanders, no? He’s not gonna jump to the R’s.

> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Assuming Biden wins, motivation will be much lower on the D side than the R.

Motivation for control of the Senate is I expect going to be way high on the D side, presuming Biden wins.

Whether that’ll be enough to pull it off is, of course, another issue. But Biden may be able to pull off taking Georgia tonight.

I did, however, say that it’s a thin hope. I’ll grant that it’s very thin. Motivation on the R side for keeping the Senate is going to be high too.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2552 "2020-11-05T21:34:48Z")

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Hopefully the Trumps will try and take the party down with them. If so, it may give those GA special elections to the Democrats, along with the Senate.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2553 "2020-11-05T21:35:24Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Not true.
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> Loeffler ( R ) is behind Warnock (D) (26% to 32.7%)
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> Perdue ( R ) is ahead of Ossoff (D) (50% to 47.7%)

I should have been more specific - Democrats are running behind Republicans by total votes in both races. Loeffler and Collins are splitting the R vote. Those Collins voters aren’t going to switch to Warnock in a runoff.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2554 "2020-11-05T21:38:13Z")

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In the “How Misinformed Are They?” category, my Trump! coworker, who took yesterday off for a celebration that didn’t happen, returned to work lamenting the fact that with “the silent majority” Trump should have walked away with this election. Thanks to Faux/Limbaugh/Etc. he 100% believes that Trump has a majority of voters on his side.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2555 "2020-11-05T21:38:16Z")

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So he’s cornered and has resorted to biting the hand that fed him for 4 years. Mitch?.. Your move, pal.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2556 "2020-11-05T21:38:18Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Perdue ( R ) is ahead of Ossoff (D) (50% to 47.7%)

Can’t round this one! It’s 49.9968% for Perdue.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2557 "2020-11-05T21:39:19Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> “88% of Trump voters cited the protests over police violence as a factor in their voting decision.”

Never mind that there were almost certainly far fewer injuries and deaths at the protests (and the majority of those were caused BY the police) than were caused by the police initially to TRIGGER the damn protests.

My son went to quite a few of the marches in DC - and only once saw something alarming, and that was something mishandled by the police.

You don’t have to be a complete moron to vote for Trump… but you DO have to be willing to completely turn off the analytical, question-asking portion of your brain.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2558 "2020-11-05T21:40:40Z")

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He might have the police, but he doesn’t have the military. The Generals & Admirals seem to think he is a joke or dangerous and the rank and file are not enamoured with him either. For every good ole boy from the south or other red states, there is a person of color and in the end the Trumpers are outnumbered thankfully.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2559 "2020-11-05T21:40:41Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Motivation for control of the Senate is I expect going to be way high on the D side, presuming Biden wins.

For you and me, yes. We’re participating in this thread because we get involved in politics (probably to an unhealthy degree, at least lately for me 😉). But for a decent part of the electorate, they’ll see their job is done. Biden won! Back to something else. The Senate just isn’t that interesting to them. Even if only 10-20% of people feel like that, you’re into landslide territory.

R’s won’t have that problem - they’ll be pissed off and ready to do anything to regain a little bit of control.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2560 "2020-11-05T21:40:45Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> In the “How Misinformed Are They?” category, my Trump! coworker, who took yesterday off for a celebration that didn’t happen, returned to work lamenting the fact that with “the silent majority” Trump should have walked away with this election. Thanks to Faux/Limbaugh/Etc. he 100% believes that Trump has a majority of voters on his side.

This reminds me. The 400 people who reportedly came to the WH to celebrate the Trump victory on election night – are they still being held captive, sleep deprived and forced to be having a great time? I sure hope so.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2561 "2020-11-05T21:40:55Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Thanks to Faux/Limbaugh/Etc. he 100% believes that Trump has a majority of voters on his side.

Well of course! Just look at the photos of the crowds at his inauguration! (the 2017 one, that is; I’m quite sure photos of the 2021 one will be circulating shortly, as reality seems not to be a requirement here…)

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2562 "2020-11-05T21:41:44Z")

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This _is_ Mitch’s move. To ignore these guys and let them lose the election.

Matt Schlapp… who was probably warned by Mitch not to go full-Trump… is complaining as well:

> <https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1324411173945552896?s=19>

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2563 "2020-11-05T21:42:10Z")

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Pennsylvania is under 100,000 vote difference now.

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