# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2604 "2020-11-05T22:25:13Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> I got messages and e-mails from Mike Holmgren urging me to vote for Biden.

I heard that, andI’m sure his name resonated with older Packer fans. But wouldn’t it have been great if Aaron Rodgers had followed that up with his own endorsement? (or even a “Catch a pass from Aaron” fund-raiser")

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**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2605 "2020-11-05T22:25:25Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> I’m kind of surprised at the apparent lack of GOP interest in supporting Trump (which he’ll remember if he wins, I’m sure).

What’s he gonna do… send nasty grams to all of them from NY State Penitentiary?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2606 "2020-11-05T22:27:03Z")

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Here’s an interesting but perhaps not surprising bit of data:

> **[Counties with worst virus surges overwhelmingly voted Trump](https://apnews.com/article/counties-worst-virus-surges-voted-trump-d671a483534024b5486715da6edb6ebf)**
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> U.S. voters went to the polls starkly divided on how they see President Donald Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic...

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2607 "2020-11-05T22:27:12Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I heard that, andI’m sure his name resonated with older Packer fans. But wouldn’t it have been great if Aaron Rodgers had followed that up with his own endorsement? (or even a “Catch a pass from Aaron” fund-raiser")

“Vote for Biden and I’ll get you the Rodgers rate.”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2608 "2020-11-05T22:28:49Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Here’s an interesting but perhaps not surprising bit of data:

Probably still believing COVID is just a hoax.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2609 "2020-11-05T22:29:21Z")

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> Back to the Senate races again, it might be kinda fun in a way for it to be 50/50. Then Vice President Kamala could cast the tie-breaking vote routinely. I’m sure Sen. McConnell would love that.

Dumb question I could easily Google: If it’s 50/50, is there still a Majority Leader?

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**Author:** ![yarblek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/71e660/32.png) [@yarblek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yarblek)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2610 "2020-11-05T22:30:58Z")

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Would be based on which party the VP is. So if it’s Dem, then the Dems have the Majority leader. I guess.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2611 "2020-11-05T22:33:48Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> I wonder how many races Jorgensen will have spoiled. It looks like she’ll be within the margin for Georgia.

Being within the margin, though, doesn’t mean she “spoiled” or changed the outcome. It’s incredibly difficult to be sure about the effects of a Libertarian candidate on a race. Some people assume that the vast majority of Libertarian voters would otherwise have voted Republican, but exit polls and other investigations of Libertarian voting show that this just isn’t the case, or not always anyway. The Libertarians get more votes from disaffected Democrats than some people want to admit, and, more importantly, a significant number of Libertarian voters simply won’t vote if their only choice is a Democrat or a Republican.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2612 "2020-11-05T22:36:31Z")

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Yup. VP breaks ties in the Senate.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2613 "2020-11-05T22:38:42Z")

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> [@sweepkick](#):
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> What’s he gonna do… send nasty grams to all of them from NY State Penitentiary?

I’m hoping he takes his ball and goes home. In this case his ball is the MAGA voters and going home means staying home on election day. That will scare any politician.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2614 "2020-11-05T22:39:05Z")

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Question. Can the loser of a Presidential election demand a recount for any reason, or is it dependent on state law? Could Trump theoretically say, “I demand a recount in Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania” and the states would have to comply?

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**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2615 "2020-11-05T22:40:14Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> See, that’s where I disagree. I think there are indeed a lot of racists who support Trump, but I think there are those who don’t consciously subscribe to racist ideology but who nevertheless feel more comfortable living in their kind of America and who privately wonder what kind of America they’d have if it were no longer an Anglo-American society. Much of this probably operates on the subconscious level.
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> That being said, it’s worth noting that there are some non-whites who supported Trump as well. My concern is that in the future, there could be a greater disconnect between the Democrats and blue collar voters of all stripes.

“Some”?

How about the whole “Walk-away” movement?

Face it. The old guard of the black community is leaving and a younger crowd is coming in and they are not going to vote democrat 90% anymore. Its the same with hispanics.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2616 "2020-11-05T22:42:02Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> “Some”?
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> How about the whole “Walk-away” movement?

That’s “some.” (and probably very few).

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2617 "2020-11-05T22:42:12Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Can the loser of a Presidential election demand a recount for any reason, or is it dependent on state law?

Varies by state, and in some states, if the margin is big enough, even a candidate-requested recount won’t be made. More info on the states that are in question now in this article:

> **[How recounts work in Georgia, Wisconsin and other key states](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/05/wisconsin-georgia-election-recount-rules/)**
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> The rules for ballot recounts differ across the contested states.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2618 "2020-11-05T22:42:34Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> “Some”?
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> How about the whole “Walk-away” movement?

Once they stop walking on Astroturf, I’ll care more about what they’re walking away from.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2619 "2020-11-05T22:43:40Z")

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More broadly here are all the laws for recounts in each of the 50 states:

> **[Election recount laws and procedures in the 50 states, 2020](https://ballotpedia.org/Election_recount_laws_and_procedures_in_the_50_states,_2020#Overview_of_vote_margins_required_for_election_recounts)**
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> Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2620 "2020-11-05T22:44:27Z")

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> **[‘Have Some Backbone’: Trump Sons Slam Silent Party](https://apps.npr.org/liveblogs/20201103-election/share/trump-sons-bemoan-lack-of-426.html)**

But really, why start now?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2621 "2020-11-05T22:44:53Z")

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I’m pretty sure this has happened in my lifetime, though I can’t recall the years.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2622 "2020-11-05T22:45:15Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> How about the whole “Walk-away” movement?

Is that like “men going their own way”?

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2623 "2020-11-05T22:45:36Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Yup. VP breaks ties in the Senate.

I know that. But is the leader of the VP’s party called the Majority Leader?

(Not really sure why I care, but I’m sleep-deprived …)

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