# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 133
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2644 "2020-11-05T22:58:43Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > The MAGAs now make up a large part of their base. Pretending to forget the old president, Bush Jr. style, isn’t going to work with Trump because those voters are more loyal to Trump the man than they are to the Republican party. All those votes that made 2020 a closer race in the house compared to 2018? Any Republican politician who pretends they never cared for Trump can kiss those votes goodbye. That’s an argument for Republican politicans not openly repudiating Trump, but not for their continuing to explicitly support and praise him. Yes, if Trump loses this election, Trumpsters may be sulky in future elections that their GOP congresscritters didn’t march into battle for him more ardently, but what can they do about it? Vote for a Democrat instead? Yeah, right. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2645 "2020-11-05T22:58:51Z")
Drip, drip, drip… 78k lead in PA with 93% counted. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2646 "2020-11-05T23:00:02Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I hate to criticize spelling and grammar (not very good myself) but this is really stupid. If your sheep what, Eric? I had the same thought. He also confused “kowtow” and “cower,” I believe: > They have a perfect platform to show that they’re willing & able to fight but they will cower to the media mob instead. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2647 "2020-11-05T23:01:02Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > Then I started grabbing the same figures for the largest counties, and some of the ones that were deepest red, and extrapolated how many additional votes each candidate might get from the to-be-counted ballots, assuming their ratios also continue to hold. The ratios for mail-in ballots in PA skew bluer than the in-person. A while back I cited a very red PA county that reported a bunch of mail-in ballots that were 63% Biden. Philadelphia County mail-ins are running 90% Biden even though the in-person ratio was 80%. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2648 "2020-11-05T23:01:09Z")
Or maybe he couldn’t decide whether he meant “kowtow to” or “cower before”, so he used the verb of one with the preposition of the other. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2649 "2020-11-05T23:01:19Z")
I believe there was a misused semicolon in one of his tweets as well, but I’m not going to look again. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2650 "2020-11-05T23:02:33Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Yes, if Trump loses this election, Trumpsters may be sulky in future elections that their GOP congresscritters didn’t march into battle for him more ardently, but what can they do about it? Vote for a Democrat instead? Yeah, right. They won’t vote for a Democrat, but they will stay home. 2018 was a blue tsunami. So was 2020. The difference is that 2020 was also a red tsunami, just a slightly smaller one, while 2018 wasn’t. The difference is largely the MAGAs. The key for Democrats going forward is not so much turning out the blue base, but keeping the red base from getting worked up. ETA. The Democrats need blue waves while simultaneously avoiding red waves. Admittedly this is the first election in recent memory where both sides were so energized. I’m guessing the last time that happened was before I was born, and that was when Carter was president. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2651 "2020-11-05T23:04:15Z")
I apologize if I’m misreading your response, but the VP does not get the Majority Leader installed. In the case of a tie, the party of the VP is considered to be the majority party, and the Majority Leader is selected by its members. Example: 1953, Senate split 50-50. VP was GOP (Nixon). Senate Majority Leader was GOP (Robert Taft, Jr, R-OH). ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2652 "2020-11-05T23:04:43Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > The ratios for mail-in ballots in PA skew bluer than the in-person. A while back I cited a very red PA county that reported a bunch of mail-in ballots that were 63% Biden. Philadelphia County mail-ins are running 90% Biden even though the in-person ratio was 80%. Case in point: Cumberland County (reddish, Trump+11 till now) just reported 30000+ votes which were 70% Biden votes. Trump lead down to about 78000. ---
**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2653 "2020-11-05T23:05:07Z")
Yeah I think the GOP has a dilemma going forward. Most of them hate Trump but know without him they lose a lot of voters who just don’t care unless their candidate is Trump or someone very much like him. This could have been the GOP’s electoral high tide. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2654 "2020-11-05T23:06:26Z")
No problem but that is what I said. The question was is there a majority leader if the senate is split 50/50. My answer was yes and the VP is the tiebreaker (so, obviously, it goes to the VP’s party). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2655 "2020-11-05T23:07:46Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > How about the whole “Walk-away” movement? A few dozen people and their bots on Twitter is not a movement. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2656 "2020-11-05T23:09:14Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Case in point: Cumberland County (reddish, Trump+11 till now) just reported 30000+ votes which were 70% Biden votes. Trump lead down to about 78000. My math had assumed the mail ins from Trumpist counties would be at least moderately okay for Trump - if not in his favor at least close enough to help him run out the clock. But nope. Joe Biden will win Pennsylvania. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2657 "2020-11-05T23:09:21Z")
(copied from the Clusterfuck thread) > **[Trump prepares to launch a second term early, even without winning](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/05/trump-second-term-without-winning-434464)** > > He may fire department heads like the FBI's Chris Wray and Pentagon chief Mark Esper. He could sign base-pleasing executive orders. He might resume travel. > Trump and his aides have settled on a plan for him to take full advantage of his existing perch at the White House to look as presidential as possible 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2658 "2020-11-05T23:10:32Z")
Seems a bit late to start trying to look as presidential as possible? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2659 "2020-11-05T23:11:09Z")
Here’s my prediction - PA continues to get closer to crossover point, and right as it gets down under 10k difference - they break for the night! ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2660 "2020-11-05T23:11:31Z")
Emphasis on “look,” not actually “be.” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2661 "2020-11-05T23:12:29Z")
Just a reminder that had Trump, in January, been honest about coronavirus, taken it seriously, and marshalled a genuine national response, he’d have easily beaten whatever luckless Democrat had gotten the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2662 "2020-11-05T23:12:46Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > NT Times just reported 6327 votes from very red (Trump+44) Crawford County ¶ that was 64% Biden. Philly mail-in votes have been running 92% Biden, Philly suburbs 70+%. I’m…starting to believe. Don’t give me hope! My heart can’t take it. If Biden wins Pennsylvania, I will sing the most Pennsylvania song there is on Youtube and share it. What song is the most “pennsylvania”? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2663 "2020-11-05T23:13:17Z")
So, if Trump had just been a completely different person he could have gotten elected? Can you say that about everyone who has lost an election? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=132) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=134)