# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2845 "2020-11-06T00:26:35Z")

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The issue was how close they are allowed to stand to the vote counters. One lawsuit was thrown out, one is still pending I believe

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2846 "2020-11-06T00:27:04Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> I think they were in the room but not close enough to the poll workers.

Yes, because of COVID, they had some rules about not allowing the watchers to be literally hanging over the shoulder of the counters.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2847 "2020-11-06T00:27:14Z")

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Yes…there are dem and rep observers in all the counting places.

When it comes to disputed ballots a dem and rep poll worked need to agree on what the intended vote was (which is usually obvious). Disputed ones go in a special box to be dealt with later.

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2848 "2020-11-06T00:27:15Z")

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Out of the most morbid of curiosities, anybody got a link to Trump’s tired-and-cut-off little speechie? I tried to find on MSNBC and CNN main websites, but apparently I am inept.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2849 "2020-11-06T00:27:44Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> NPR seems to source from the AP.

Google is too.

[https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=election+results](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=election+results)

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2850 "2020-11-06T00:27:51Z")

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I’m sure some of you have similar warm memories of Nixon’s resignation speech dancing like sugarplums in your heads.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2851 "2020-11-06T00:27:51Z")

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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> The issue was how close they are allowed to stand to the vote counters. One lawsuit was thrown out, one is still pending I believe

Correction, the other was dismissed

[KALEIGH ROGERS](https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/kaleigh-rogers/)

[NOV. 5, 7:21 PM](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/295131/)

One thing Trump repeatedly claimed in his speech tonight was that his campaign representatives were not being given access to observe the vote-counting process and that they’ve had to sue in order to “have people watch.” First of all, the vote-counting process is always bipartisan and campaign observers are allowed to witness it. Second of all, his lawsuits (in Pennsylvania and Michigan) weren’t about being allowed to observe — because, again, they _are_ and _have been_ allowed — they’re [about how close those observers able to stand.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-files-election-lawsuits-michigan-pennsylvania-alleging-lack/story?id=74032924) The lawsuit in Michigan was [thrown out](https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/05/trump-michigan-lawsuit-ballot-counting-case-dismissed/6173871002/), and the Pennsylvania one was dismissed today after [both sides agreed](https://twitter.com/kadhim/status/1324500761603198976) to the number of observers each campaign can have in the room.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2852 "2020-11-06T00:28:01Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> “Mike Pence, nowhere to be found.”

Trump’s got him tied up. Gonna walk him to the door hostage style if he has to.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2853 "2020-11-06T00:29:34Z")

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Nitpick: counting in UK elections aren’t exclusively done by council employees. I’ve done it a few times as a paid volunteer and I’ve never worked for the council.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2854 "2020-11-06T00:29:34Z")

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Got no argument with a failed getaway in this scenario.

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**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2855 "2020-11-06T00:29:37Z")

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Oh, my dog! I am ded! 🤣

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**Author:** ![tingbudong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tingbudong/32/520_2.png) [@tingbudong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tingbudong)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2856 "2020-11-06T00:30:43Z")

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I know the long count is frustrating for many, but if it indeed goes Biden, as it is looking, there is some amusement in witnessing this long, long slow death Trump is experiencing right now. This wasn’t a swift, off-with-his/her-head election loss…this was drawn out.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2857 "2020-11-06T00:30:54Z")

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Who’s the dude ranting and raving in Georgia? Call to battle, indeed.

Far-out.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2858 "2020-11-06T00:31:01Z")

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> **[2020 Election Results, News And Analysis](https://apps.npr.org/liveblogs/20201103-election/#railing-against-democrats-the-media-449)**
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> Follow the latest news and analysis of the presidential, House and Senate races.

Includes: Railing Against Democrats, Trump Again Prematurely Claims Victory In Ongoing Election

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2859 "2020-11-06T00:31:08Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> Out of the most morbid of curiosities, anybody got a link to Trump’s tired-and-cut-off little speechie? I tried to find on MSNBC and CNN main websites, but apparently I am inept.

[Here’s the whole thing on Youtube.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvu1P5VFVsQ)

Or do you mean the cut off version? Can’t help with that, I’d be amused to see it.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2860 "2020-11-06T00:32:03Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> Out of the most morbid of curiosities, anybody got a link to Trump’s tired-and-cut-off little speechie? I tried to find on MSNBC and CNN main websites, but apparently I am inept

I found it on youtube:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/aJrcaUsvRY0/maxresdefault.jpg "WATCH: Trump makes false claims about continuing vote count") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJrcaUsvRY0)

and tried to watch it, but gave up.

– whoops, ninja’d; though that’s a different link.

I’d also be curious to see the cutoff version.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2861 "2020-11-06T00:32:50Z")

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According to [pa.gov](https://www.votespa.com/About-Elections/Pages/Counting-Dashboard.aspx), as of 4:55 PM,

326,348 ballots remaining  
84,896 in Philadelphia  
35,976 in Allegheny  
34,527 in Lehigh  
31,970 in Cumberland  
25,472 in Bucks  
17,028 in Erie  
14,392 in Monroe  
10,923 in Crawford

ETA: My news sources are currently reporting Mr. Trump’s lead in Pennsylvania at 64,261 votes.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2862 "2020-11-06T00:32:55Z")

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> [@tingbudong](#):
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> I know the long count is frustrating for many, but if it indeed goes Biden, as it is looking, there is some amusement in witnessing this long, long slow death Trump is experiencing right now. This wasn’t a swift, off-with-his/her-head election loss…this was drawn out.

I agree that is an upside to having to wait. But there’s still a part of me that will not rejoice until it’s over.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2863 "2020-11-06T00:33:51Z")

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> [@Malden\_Capell](#):
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> Nitpick: counting in UK elections aren’t exclusively done by council employees. I’ve done it a few times as a paid volunteer and I’ve never worked for the council.

Interesting, where did you do it? Mine was in a suburb of London, and I understood it was staff at the council offices doing the counting, but ICBW.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/2864 "2020-11-06T00:34:09Z")

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I saw the cut off version, Brian Wiliams came in after about 10 seconds saying that once again they had to cut off the President of the United States

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