# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 155
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3085 "2020-11-06T03:44:52Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Again, and let me say this slowly for you: Biden going to get Pennsylvania. He’ll also get Nevada. Arizona won’t matter. North Carolina won’t matter. Georgia won’t matter. Ok? > > I am not having this discussion with you, because your tone is dickish and you’re the only one asserting Biden is only going to get 270. I don’t accept that. My tone is dickish because you are not answering a very simple question. Why can’t there be a faithless elector? And you have no idea who will win what states at this point. You may have good, educated guesses and you may very well turn out to be right (and I certainly hope so) but that is neither here nor there. Why can’t there be faithless electors? ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3086 "2020-11-06T03:45:05Z")
The bleeding in AZ may have ended. The gap just widened from 46257 Biden lead to 46667 Biden lead. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3087 "2020-11-06T03:45:38Z")
Please go back and read my post #3074 more closely. I already said if it was at 270, it could be an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3088 "2020-11-06T03:45:54Z")
I think I heard on the news that those Arizona Native American precincts were running 90% Biden. In this CNN map - an awesome tool that lets you look county by county > **[2020 presidential election results](https://edition.cnn.com/election/2020/results/president?iid=politics_election_national_map)** > > See maps and real-time presidential election results for the 2020 US election. I see a couple of large rural counties with Biden votes of around 65-70%, but those are BIG counties and I assume they are also home to lots of really hard core conservatives. I’m taking a guess - not knowing the state at all - that maybe the NA population is the reason these rural counties are blue. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3089 "2020-11-06T03:46:23Z")
No way to know what’s being counted - that’s been the issue in most of the delayed counting ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3090 "2020-11-06T03:47:22Z")
my little inner teenage boy keeps giggling every time John King says “the President is steadily shrinking in Pennsylvania” ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3091 "2020-11-06T03:47:44Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think I heard on the news that those Arizona Native American precincts were running 90% Biden. And just look at the AREA of them! They’re totally BLUE! That means the area of land, I mean, the PEOPLE, definitely want Biden! ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3092 "2020-11-06T03:48:53Z")
You said: > [@Aspenglow](#): > > I’m aware of that, but according to the ruling, they have to enact the rule before the election and can’t enact it retroactively. So for this election, at least, it shouldn’t be a thing. Why aren’t faithless electors a thing this election? You said nothing about 270 here. And I showed you 270 is a very possible outcome. What rules enacted when stop them? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3093 "2020-11-06T03:49:54Z")
Please stop. He clearly said it would be an issue if it was 270-268, but he just doesn’t accept the premise it will be that tight. You’ve gnawed that bone down to a nub - go find a new one. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3094 "2020-11-06T03:50:32Z")
He changed his tune once he was caught out pretending there was some kind of law against it. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3095 "2020-11-06T03:51:24Z")
Who gives a shit? Move on. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3096 "2020-11-06T03:52:12Z")
I just looked at Georgia and Trump is ahead by 1775 votes. No I did not forget a zero. This brings me to the nightmare scenario where Biden takes Georgia and Trump takes everything else, leaving us with a tie which I am not sure I could survive. It’s my birthday. Can’t I at least get Pennsylvania as my present? ---
**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3097 "2020-11-06T03:52:43Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > How am I supposed to sleep tonight? Myself, I am cautiously optimistic. The mail-in ballots seem to be in favor of the Democrats. I won’t complete relax until Biden hits 270, but I think the odds are on his side. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3098 "2020-11-06T03:54:37Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > I just looked at Georgia and Trump is ahead by 1775 votes. No I did not forget a zero. This brings me to the nightmare scenario where Biden takes Georgia and Trump takes everything else, leaving us with a tie which I am not sure I could survive. It’s my birthday. Can’t I at least get Pennsylvania as my present? It would take an anti-miracle for Trump to hold PA right now. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3099 "2020-11-06T03:54:37Z")
Biden needs 58% of remaining ballots to win GA. And he now only needs 57.5% of remaining votes to win PA. If he keeps getting the votes at the same rate he’ll win GA by 4,200 and PA by 84,000. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3100 "2020-11-06T03:55:37Z")
And there’s no reason to think he won’t. Same deal in Nevada. Pretty much all that’s left outstanding is Clark County. That’s Las Vegas, and they will likely favor Biden heavily. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3101 "2020-11-06T03:56:25Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I see a couple of large rural counties with Biden votes of around 65-70%, but those are BIG counties and I assume they are also home to lots of really hard core conservatives. I’m taking a guess - not knowing the state at all - that maybe the NA population is the reason these rural counties are blue. I"m going by [this map](https://www.azcentral.com/elections/results/2020-11-03/state/arizona/) and personal knowledge of who lives where. Yes, Mohave County is voting blue and there are a whole lot of NA’s there, but if you look at Apache County, its RED. Yavapai County, which is also home of several NA reservations is fucking RED. Pinal County, which is where the (fuck, forgot their names, but their rez crosses into Mexico) is RED. Sorry, I might need to smoke a whole lot of now legal weed and calm down. I was not yelling at you, but seriously, how does this sort of stupid shit happen. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3102 "2020-11-06T03:56:36Z")
Does it help that I am absolutely sure about PA? And I am a worrier. Trump’s lead is going down by 10k every 15 mintues, and all the counties left will go heavily for Biden. I think it was late TUE that Carville and others were absolutley sure Biden would win by 100k. I didn’t know how they got there exactly, with a 400k deficit ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3103 "2020-11-06T03:56:45Z")
Based on nothing more than the outstanding math, PA seems to be the most likely to go to Biden of all the uncalled states ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3104 "2020-11-06T03:57:23Z")
Yeah even Trump himself seems to be flipping out over PA - so you know it’s good news for Biden [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=154) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=156)