# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3125 "2020-11-06T04:14:59Z")

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Ah Chicago. City of the big shoulders. Stacker of wheat. Maker of meat on a bone. Home of the pigsickle.

You probably know, from MASH and the Adam’s Ribs episode (and Sandberg of course)

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3126 "2020-11-06T04:15:09Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Faithless elector rulings in the Supreme Court are irrelevant to the House vote in the event of a tie. They’re two separate issues.

They are two separate issues but still kinda connected because a faithless elector could prevent a supposed 269 - 269 EV from ever _getting_ to the House by changing the score to 270 - 268.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3127 "2020-11-06T04:17:22Z")

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The Dem senate candidate in Alaska is still saying he’ll win:

> <https://twitter.com/dralgrossak/status/1324520257885773824?s=21>

Last I checked, the current senate vote count there is similar to the presidential count.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3128 "2020-11-06T04:17:39Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> I feel like i’m watching a super close nail biter of a football game, only stretched out over 3-4 days instead of 3-4 hours. And one of the quarterbacks is a complete moron, yet somehow still in the game.

Maybe baseball makes for a better analogy. It’s the top of the 46th inning, I think.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3129 "2020-11-06T04:17:43Z")

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The second city. The city that works. The third coast. The windy city. The white city.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3130 "2020-11-06T04:19:01Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I’m aware of that, but according to the ruling, they have to enact the rule before the election and can’t enact it retroactively. So for this election, at least, it shouldn’t be a thing.

There is no “enacting” needed. Many states _currently_ do not have FE laws therefore they allow for FE to happen legally.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3131 "2020-11-06T04:19:07Z")

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Apparently, a few of the rats have been convinced to not flee the ship quite yet.

> [@](#):
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> After Trump’s sons and others in the president’s immediate orbit complained that not enough Republicans were speaking out in defense of the president’s unsubstantiated claims of election corruption, several prominent Republicans publicly echoed Trump’s rhetoric.
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> When Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), who won reelection, was mentioned on Twitter by name for staying silent about the results, Donald Trump Jr. tweeted back, “No one is surprised.”
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> Several hours later, Graham was on Fox News with Sean Hannity, where he falsely claimed that the election had been rigged. The senator, one of Trump’s closest allies on Capitol Hill, said he would be donating $500,000 to Trump’s legal fund, prompting Eric Trump to tweet: “Thank you for having a spine! Fight this fraud!”
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> Graham also told Hannity that he was open to the idea of the GOP-controlled Pennsylvania legislature choosing its own electors, overriding the will of the voters.
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> After Graham’s segment, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) appeared with Hannity and accused the Democrats of trying to steal the election from Trump.
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> Senator-elect Tommy Tuberville, who defeated incumbent Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.), made similar allegations, tweeting the same conspiracy theory that the legal counting of mail-in ballots for Biden is proof of corruption.
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> “The election results are out of control. It’s like the whistle has blown, the game is over and the players have gone home, but the referees are suddenly adding touchdowns to the other team’s side of the scoreboard,” the former football coach said.

> **[Trump, as lead narrows in counts in Pa., Ga., repeats baseless claims of fraud](https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/05/trump-biden-election-live-updates/#link-6HGNLHMXEZGURAMI7JQI2RZEM4)**
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> Joe Biden has 253 electoral votes to President Trump's 214. His campaign has filed legal challenges in numerous states and sought a recount in Wisconsin. Ballots continue to be counted in North Carolina and Nevada.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3132 "2020-11-06T04:19:15Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> 6ABC just reported on air that the Philadelphia police arrested two armed men who drove up from Virginia in a HUMVEE, intending to attack the Philadelphia Convention Center where the vote count is still going on. There is now a huge police presence around the Center.

That is terrifying but not surprising. This is the kind of violence Trump has encouraged. I’m glad they caught those sonsofbitches.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3133 "2020-11-06T04:19:25Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> There’s a different SCOTUS now and even if it was the same I don’t see how the July ruling definitively eliminates any chance of a FE. If it happened, I suspect there would be a new case for SCOTUS to rule on and at that point anything could happen.

I agree that’s true.

However, and I’ve said this repeatedly throughout the discussion, I don’t believe it can come into play in _this_ election, because the rules can’t be changed retroactively and I don’t believe in the end it’s going to be a 270 EV election. I think blatantly going against the will of the people in a decisive election brings a significant amount of risk – even for this newly-constituted SCOTUS.

You are correct that it’s a whole new ball game with the newly-constituted Supreme Court, and they will advance their objectives to rule by minority whenever they think they can get away with it.

I do think it is also significant that Republicans are backing away from Trump and do not appear to have an appetite for pursuing this path of madness. For now.

> [@sweepkick](#):
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> Just to point something out regarding faithless electors, there were 7 successful faithless elector votes in the 2016 election (out of 10 attempted). 5 went against Trump, while 2 went against Clinton. The three Trump faithless electors voted for Colin Powell, and John Kasich, Ron Paul, and the two Clinton faithless electors voted Bernie Sanders, and Faith Spotted Eagle (Native American activist involved with the Keystone XL resistance).

That is interesting. And a bit unnerving.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3134 "2020-11-06T04:20:04Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> 6ABC just reported on air that the Philadelphia police arrested two armed men who drove up from Virginia in a HUMVEE, intending to attack the Philadelphia Convention Center where the vote count is still going on. There is now a huge police presence around the Center.

This is what trump has wrought— convincing his army of idiots that they’re being patriotic Americans by trying to violently stop the voting process.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3135 "2020-11-06T04:22:39Z")

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Anderson Cooper is bringing some heat today:

[https://twitter.com/birbigs/status/1324513010984144897?s=21](https://twitter.com/birbigs/status/1324513010984144897?s=21)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3136 "2020-11-06T04:22:40Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> There is no “enacting” needed. Many states _currently_ do not have FE laws therefore they allow for FE to happen legally.

Ok, that clarifies things for me. I thought the SCOTUS ruling addressed that in saying that a state legislature couldn’t retroactively decide to allow faithless electors if they already have laws against it. I wasn’t aware so many states currently don’t have FE laws that allow for it.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3137 "2020-11-06T04:25:13Z")

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Lindsey Graham is the embodiment of Gríma Wormtongue (The Lord of the Rings).

Maybe Peter Pettigrew (aka Wormtail) from Harry Potter.

I can’t decide.

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**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3138 "2020-11-06T04:25:45Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> Preliminary figures, but fascinating, nonetheless.
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> [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-wins-highest-percent-of-nonwhite-voters-of-any-republican-in-60-years-doubles-lgbtq-support-from-2016-exit-poll/ar-BB1aJJJS?li)

So maybe I was right about the black “walk away” movement?

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**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3139 "2020-11-06T04:27:14Z")

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Any guesses on when they will announce Biden has the 270?

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3140 "2020-11-06T04:27:28Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Damn, feel like I missed a Jeopardy question I shoulda had, thanks.

No, not really. People’s posts here should not be like Jeopardy questions. There should be nothing to “solve”. If folks can just spell out what they mean instead of using acronyms and initialisms everywhere we’ll be fine.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3141 "2020-11-06T04:31:19Z")

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> [@Mike\_Mabes](#):
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> the court room scenes in the Odd Couple, I believe there are 3 EPs with them, are some of the funniest TV ever

What’s “EP”? Is that Extended Play? 'Cause I thought that was for records (single, EP, LP) not video.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3142 "2020-11-06T04:31:42Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> Any guesses on when they will announce Biden has the 270?

I’d guess tomorrow morning, after he passes Trump in PA.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3143 "2020-11-06T04:33:31Z")

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Didn’t you just throw a hissy fit in a hospice announcement thread because you couldn’t handle just asking someone what an acronym meant? Here’s the facts - we’re already all fine when someone uses an unfamiliar term or initialism. It’s not the end of the world, and you can persevere through the torment of a few minutes of confusion.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3144 "2020-11-06T04:33:48Z")

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I’m not any one and nothing matters and by no means is this jr. moderating, tis but only a very easy observation–Whack-A-Mole might need to take a break and get some rest. I don’t see the need to be such an aggressively wet blanket and so antagonistic in so many replies. Super agro. We’re all a little fried, you don’t have to junk-yard dog at every little thing.

(“yes my name checks out”)

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