# Election Day \[Week\]\[Month\[s\]\] \[Year\] 2020 follow-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618 "2020-11-03T05:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 176
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3507 "2020-11-06T16:22:25Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > In Stephanie W Wilson’s book _Melania and Me_ , she tells some funny stories about how, during the transition, she (Melania)kept wanting the press releases to refer to her as the First Lady Elect. > > Everyone kept trying to explain to her that no one voted for her, she wasn’t elected to anything and the term was just wrong. But she didn’t want to hear it. I’m a sailor so I’m rarely at a loss for colorful language. But I have to admit that Melanie has challenged my vocabulary for vituperative expression of loathing. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3508 "2020-11-06T16:22:31Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I’m especially wondering why the Fox decision desk hasn’t called PA. They have a vested interest in delaying the inevitable: > [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > CNN just reporting that Foxnews has told staff that it should not use the term “president elect” for Biden even after it is called. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3509 "2020-11-06T16:23:20Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I’m especially wondering why the Fox decision desk hasn’t called PA. They called AZ a couple of days ago and, as such, haven’t even been covering the vote count in that state\* but they won’t call PA? Because it would put Biden over 270, obviously… CNN hasn’t called either one, to be fair. It’s not like network calls actually matter. The vote will come out, and the results will be what they are. What does matter is Trump not conceding, but that should have been expected regardless of the results. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3510 "2020-11-06T16:24:14Z")
I hope that it’s not just the story that…I can’t finish that though without breaking a rule, I think. But if McConnell, like a miracle, just disappears, then the Democratic governor of Kentucky appoints the replacement. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3511 "2020-11-06T16:24:19Z")
Two things I’d like to help DJT supporters see clearly: - When Trump said that he, “could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose voters,” and that he “love[s] the poorly educated,” he wasn’t paying them a compliment. He was calling them Useful Idiots, and - (applicable to both sides, but **not** equally) Just because you like it doesn’t mean it’s true. Conversely, just because you _don’t_ like it doesn’t mean it _isn’t_ true. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3512 "2020-11-06T16:24:41Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I’m especially wondering why the Fox decision desk hasn’t called PA. They called AZ a couple of days ago and, as such, haven’t even been covering the vote count in that state\* but they won’t call PA? I just went to [foxnews.com](http://foxnews.com). The headline: > RECOUNT, LAWSUITS GALORE > Tight races in critical battlegrounds heighten scrutiny; latest results in undeclared states here So reading that, it sounds like trump still has a chance. NOT! ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3513 "2020-11-06T16:24:53Z")
Could it really be that after 74 years of preferential treatment, Donald J. Trump is finally going to face a consequence? I’ll only fully believe it when I see Joe Biden with his hand on the bible, grinning at John Roberts. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3515 "2020-11-06T16:26:14Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > I keep looking at the AZ counties with large NA populations and can only think “Da fuuuck?” The two counties with a significant Native American population – percentage wise – are Apache (72%) and Navajo (48%). Apache is solidly blue, more blue than Maricopa (dammit!). The other 48% in Navajo county are almost all LDS. 'Nuff said. The other counties all are about 25% or less – sometimes way less – NA and overwhelmed by Anglos, even if they are _all_ voting Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3516 "2020-11-06T16:26:22Z")
Hey, Arizona picked up a Senate seat according to NBC. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3517 "2020-11-06T16:28:30Z")
My point is that while I get it that no one wants to first to make that call, the Fox News _election desk_ is usually pretty ballsy. Arizona was a controversial call and they haven’t walked it back. They have a reputation for making early calls, even for Democrats. I think they were the first to call Obama’s win in 2012. I actually expect them to call before CNN and MSNBC. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3518 "2020-11-06T16:29:15Z")
This will be interesting. I will not be surprised one bit if Trump never concedes personally. Some other minion (McEnany?) will have to make a public statement. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3519 "2020-11-06T16:30:10Z")
Let them drag him kicking and screaming out of office. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3520 "2020-11-06T16:30:23Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > But if McConnell, like a miracle, just disappears, then the Democratic governor of Kentucky appoints the replacement. Yeah, I was wondering what the replacement rule is. It would certainly be … _ironic_ … if there were a 51-49 senate and then a Democratic governor was in charge of a replacement. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3521 "2020-11-06T16:30:38Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I’m especially wondering why the Fox decision desk hasn’t called PA. They called AZ a couple of days ago and, as such, haven’t even been covering the vote count in that state\* but they won’t call PA? Fox “News” is positioning itself to be the ongoing loud opposition to Biden and Democrats for the foreseeable future. They will continue to generally exploit Trumpism, only without the Trump, for their own long-term purposes. They, along with Republicans in general, intend to delegitimize Biden and hope to increase their power in the 2022 mid-term election. We should not minimize just how poorly Dems did in the rest of this election. We lost seats in the House. We are still stuck with McConnell and his majority unless we can take those 2 Georgia Senate seats – and we’d better fight like hell to do that. If we don’t, Biden can accomplish virtually nothing in the next 2 years. McConnell is counting on it. My guess is he’s perfectly happy to be rid of Trump, who has well served McConnell’s long-term goals but is just in the way now. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3522 "2020-11-06T16:31:11Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Hey, Arizona picked up a Senate seat according to NBC. Yup; Mark Kelly had been clearly ahead of Martha McSally for days, but that last chunk of ballots which were just announced apparently made the outcome clear to NBC’s decision desk. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3523 "2020-11-06T16:31:13Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Let them drag him kicking and screaming out of office. Could I ask that he have the Saddam Hussein ‘spider hole’ look, affect, and wardrobe when they do ?? ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3524 "2020-11-06T16:32:40Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > It’s not over yet, but Trump must be throwing a fit right now. CNN reports the Secret Service has increased their presence around Biden, and I assume Vice President Harris as well. > > The more people act as if Biden has won the more it hurts Trump! Also a no-fly zone has been put in place over Biden’s house. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3525 "2020-11-06T16:33:42Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Also a no-fly zone has been put in place over Biden’s house. [insert favorite Mike Pence at the debate joke here] ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3526 "2020-11-06T16:34:16Z")
That explains something I was wondering, which is why the county that contains Colorado City wasn’t way redder than it was. I checked that specifically long before this conversation ( I have a long running interest in cults, and cults love Trump ) and was surprised it wasn’t 80% + Trump, but at that time I didn’t realize there was an large NA population that pulled it the other way. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618/3527 "2020-11-06T16:35:44Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > > > But if McConnell, like a miracle, just disappears, then the Democratic governor of Kentucky appoints the replacement. > > Yeah, I was wondering what the replacement rule is. It would certainly be … _ironic_ … if there were a 51-49 senate and then a Democratic governor was in charge of a replacement. Not sure about other states, but in AZ there is a law that requires the governor to appoint a replacement from the same party as the one being replaced. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=175) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/election-day-week-month-s-year-2020-follow-along-thread/924618.md?page=177)